To think people should tip waiting staff?

[StudentMummy92]

Title says it all really.. providing good service is given of course.

@LuItaliana thank you, you worded it better than me!

Not tipping is not being a tightwad as a pp stated.

We have minimum wage in this country. The restaurant advertises on their menu how much a dish costs so that is what I pay just like when I go into a supermarket and see a price label I pay that amount for the product.

Who decides what jobs get tipped and what don't. Some people tip the supermarket delivery drivers but wouldn't think to tip the person who did your shopping for you or the person who put it on the shelf so it was there to be picked for you.

You posted your title as a question OP but you really don't come across as someone that wants to hear any answers unless they agree with you

Rather than rudely hitting back perhaps accept we all have different view points and take advantage of the fact you can learn from that?

My god you really are awful

Op you are bloody insane if you think bloody wait staff work harder and deserve more money than anyone else. All my jobs have been min wage. I was a bartender. Dealing with drunks and not getting tips. Same company i was a waitress and got no tips and i cleaned the restaraunt too. Then i became a care assistant on nights doing 12 hour shifts on my feet wiping up poo vomit wee and sometimes blood and pus. Dealing with being assaulted by our residents with mental illness all on minimum wage oh and i suffered nerve damage after being assaulted at that job. No tips or extra pay there. Now i work in a shop. 9 hours on my feet running up and downstairs getting customers new stock as shelf stock is not acceptable to them etc. Serving dealing with complaints heaving heavy boxes of books up and downstairs all on a zero hour min wage contract but nice to know i dont deserve more money according to you.

I know what McDonald's is like, I left 6 months ago

Course you did 😂 You wouldn’t have an attitude like yours if you had.

You really should be ashamed of yourself. You have this high and mighty opinion of yourself and believe you have a right to other people’s hard earned money for waiting tables, yet seem to be so snobby and belittling about the thought of that money going to other low wage jobs too.

Like I said, you need to work on your own unhappiness and self worth, and not expect other people’s money just for doing the job you are paid to do.

@heartsonacake I did leave 6 months, easiest job I've had aside from retail.

OP, I can’t decide what stinks more. Your horrible entitled attitude, your nasty dismissivenes of people who work hard in other minimum wage jobs or the awful food you serve up.

@heartsonacake I would absolutely tip anyone from any job if they gave me impeccable service and were allowed to take them and receive them. I was just stating the differences when people were saying they were the same. They are not.

If I was all 'high and mighty' and 'snobby' then I wouldn't be caught dead in a low paid job.

A tipping culture may appear kindly, but it encourages employers to give low wages in expectation that the employee’s pay will be topped up by benevolent customers... All that does is make a potion of staff’s pay, dependent on the whims of the customer....

I think tips should be reserved for truly exceptional service only.

I would absolutely tip anyone from any job if they gave me impeccable service and were allowed to take them and receive them.

actually most people are "allowed", you just chose not to..

I think the delivery people from Waitrose are not allowed to accept a tip - they are not in my town at least, but pretty much anyone else is allowed...

@andpancakesforbreakfast in my previous jobs I have been told not to accept tips. So I've just assumed in those places, I can't. Delivery drivers etc I always tip. Bar staff I buy a drink if they can't take tips etc.

@Oakenbeach I wouldn't expect to be given a tip if I'd not provided exceptional service. But to run around like a headless chicken and go above and beyond for a party of 15 who's bill is £400 and they don't even pop a quid on the bill tray is just cheap.

@Student

If you did give exceptional service that went above and beyond then I’ve no problem with a tip. My issue is where tips are generally expected as some of the comments on here suggest should be the case.

Despite my views that a tipping culture undermines workers’ rights by removing security over a portion of their remuneration, i often still tip in restaurants, especially when in a group (as I don’t want to be seen as a tightwad). Hypocritical? Yes, perhaps... but I’m human.

Nope. They're just doing their job which they're paid for. If the pay is not enough - take the issue with the employer. I'm not their employer.

That said, I don't need any 'extra' or 'special' service. I come usually knowing what I want and if I don't - I read the menu. Order. Eat. Pay. Leave. I don't need any recommendations, fake smiles, annoying small talk and all the other bullshit. All the 'how are you today' (Please. You don't give a shit how I am. And I don't give a shit about your day either). Just take my order and bring my plate - that's it. You don't need to smile and pretend to be nice - I absolutely don't care.

I don't see why I should pay any extra for someone bringing me a plate and a glass to the table. I'm actually perfectly happy to do it myself and skip the waitress/waiter altogether, don't mind if all places would be self-service.

Same goes for hairdressers. Just write/tell me the bloody price and I'll pay it. If you want more - say it beforehand, and if the price is right - I'll use your service and pay it. Why on earth should I give you anything on top of that after you've done YOUR JOB for the price already agreed? Because the service 'was great'? Well if it wasn't great, you wouldn't have any clients anyway, would you?

Yes, of course!

Also I think a lot of people who love to
tip kid themselves that they are being kind, when actually they just love to show largesse and be “Lady Bountiful” by giving “the staff” a little treat, thereby demonstrating their superior financial status.

It's the employers job to pay wages. I don't see why waiting staff should get extra but not the lady at the tills. Don't start a thread when you're intolerant to other people's opinions

But to run around like a headless chicken and go above and beyond for a party of 15 who's bill is £400 and they don't even pop a quid on the bill tray is just cheap.

What about then chef who’s worked her arse off in the kitchen, the cleaner who’s got the place spotless beforehand etc. Lots of people work very hard... few expect tips. I don’t see why waiting tables is a special case.

I don’t see why now there is minimum wage. There are plenty of people like care assistants that are on a low wage they don’t get tips. Service can often be shit as well. I do in upmarket places because it is expected but it annoys me.

I'm absolutely stunned at the amount of you saying you don't tip!!!

I always tip 10% assuming I've had good service. I possibly give a bit more if the service is really good.

It's how I was bought up and I consider it normal good manners. I'd feel quite guilty if I left a restaurant without tipping.

I work full time in retail on NMW and also offer a great service to my customers, why should I not get tips?

I work in retail and get tipped quite frequently. Not every transaction but maybe 4-5 times a week

I always put them in a charity box

@Oakenbeach I don't keep all the tips, if you read the thread you'd see I share my tips with the kitchen, bar and other staff. Also, if it's a service charge on the bill it is paid to all the staff of the restaurant, working that shift or not.

@QueenoftheBiscuitTin the only thing I am intolerant of is people saying they are the same. They are not.

I work in an SEN school for children with very challenging behaviour. My TAs are paid not much more than minimum wage and get physically attacked on a daily basis. Sometimes little scratches and punches, other times concussion, broken bones and black eyes. They all work in the holidays to make ends meet. Nobody tips them, and they help to change lives. So no, I don't tip 'just because'.

If service is particularly good then I will, but I don't see being on your feet all day serving food (I've never done it, I'd be useless so I'm not judging) as more deserving than any other minimum wage job.