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To think anyone thinking of voting Lib Dems

83 replies

Mistlewoeandwhine · 29/11/2019 16:40

... needs to know this. They’ve admitted they won’t be scrapping Article 50. Better to vote Labour to get the evil Tories out.

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curlykaren · 29/11/2019 16:42

No, where have they said this? I'm fully distracted by incident at London Bridge because we live in area. What have I missed??

Hagbeth · 29/11/2019 16:42

Haha not Labour! You are joking, right? Grin

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Mistlewoeandwhine · 29/11/2019 16:43

Sorry. Crap link.

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Spamantha · 29/11/2019 16:45

Apparently they've reverted back to having a second referedum instead.

Of course, it's all academic, because there was no way the LDs would ever win a majority, so a vote for them was always, in effect, a vote for a second referedum.

If you don't want Brexit, you should still tactically vote for Labour, LDs or whichever other party are most competitive against the Torries in your constituency.

BarbeDwyer · 29/11/2019 16:46

YABU

I'd rather have the Tories in than Labour, and that's saying a lot.

Badabingbadabum · 29/11/2019 16:46

But that is what they have always said. They will only stop Brexit if they are a majority government. It's not a change in policy.

Peanutbutteryogurt · 29/11/2019 16:57

I might vote lib dem as they're the only ones with a chance against Tories in this constituency

Meadowland · 29/11/2019 16:59

Definitely voting Lib Dem here

Squigglypig2 · 29/11/2019 17:02

I'm voting lib dem. Used to vote Labour. Am in a safe labour seat but want to increase vote share for a party which is pro remain and much more central than current incarnation of labour and Tory.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 29/11/2019 17:02

Fine to vote Lib Dems as a way to block the Tories. It’s pointless otherwise.

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BarbeDwyer · 29/11/2019 17:05

I'll vote for who I like. Who are you to tell someone their vote might be pointless?

kingsassassin · 29/11/2019 17:08

It's pointless to vote labour where I am, but people still will. If enough people do the conservatives will win the seat. Will you tell them their vote is pointless too, or is that okay because it's for St Jezza?

FatherB · 29/11/2019 17:10

Tactical Voting and FPTP is the reason we're in this mess in the first place. If the ballot said "Labour , Convervative, They're all shit" guess which one would get the most votes?

Let people vote for the other parties, change the system to a representative one, and force more collaboration between parties to work together with different idealogies with one common goal rather than opposite extremes in an echo chamber where everyone feels forced to vote for the better of two evils.

Squigglypig2 · 29/11/2019 17:12

I think It's pointless and wrong headed to vote for a party that (a) will get in anyway and (b) which you don't believe in under current leadership. Plus as a "Centrist Mum" and apparently a red Tory as I voted for Labour under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown when it did make a difference and having been told by it's Corbynistas to fuck off and vote Tory I think my reasons for voting lib dem are sound.

Mistlewoeandwhine · 29/11/2019 17:16

What “sound” reasons can you have to vote for a pro-fracking, pro-austerity, pro-nuclear war party with no real agenda except to scrape up a few seats on the basis of stopping Brexit. Which they can’t even achieve.

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Squigglypig2 · 29/11/2019 17:19

Their budget is the only one that has been approved by the Odd of the 3 main parties. They'll scrape the bedroom tax. They are not pro fracking or pro austerity - that's just fabricated nonsense.

Squigglypig2 · 29/11/2019 17:22

IFS

Actionhasmagic · 29/11/2019 17:22

I’ll be voting labour

BarbeDwyer · 29/11/2019 17:24

In the last GE, the Lib Dem candidate got 2.4 % of the vote, 80 votes more than the Brexit candidate.

Even if a vote is 'wasted' I still think that the best option is to vote for who you want.

It is a safe seat, the winner got 62.9% of the vote

LabourHere · 29/11/2019 17:34

I'm voting labour! (and I'm a brexit supporter!)

Doobigetta · 29/11/2019 17:45

I don’t see the point any more of criticising who other people vote for. They’ve all proven themselves to be either dishonest or incompetent or both. Pretty much every decent MP has stood down. I can make reasonable arguments for and against all three of the main English parties. More against, for all three. So the fact that I’ll decide one is slightly less unpalatable than the other two isn’t really saying much. I definitely don’t think it’s worth getting angry with someone who has chosen the rock rather than the hard place.

TowelNumber42 · 29/11/2019 17:49

pro-nuclear war party

Oh FFS. This kind of hyperbole is why people don't take activists seriously. Nobody is saying having a nuclear war would be brilliant. Why on earth would you come out with that on here? Are you stupid or do you think us women are stupid?

curlykaren · 29/11/2019 17:54

Actually the IFS said that hard Brexit will increase taxes beyond that currently proposed by the Labour government, plus all the other crazy shit that goes along with it.

kingsassassin · 29/11/2019 17:56

It's all the fault of biscuit gate 9 years ago. Mumsnet now counts as 'influential' so we've got to put up with another 13 days of these irritating Momentum bots asking their oh so faux naive questions like 'why are you a baby eating warmonger'.

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