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How anyone can vote Tory?

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Stella8686 · 28/11/2019 23:40

After seeing some pro labour and pro conservatives posts recently I am genuinely interested to see what makes someone vote conservative


  1. Hard/ quick Brexit
  2. Looking after your own finances
  3. Hatred for Labour/ Corbyn

ABIU to not be able to think of any single other reason to vote conservative?
OP posts:
CallmeAngelina · 29/11/2019 08:58

vote to save our nhs listen to the doctors and nurses

And what do you mean, exactly, by that soundbite.

Spinderellacutituponetime · 29/11/2019 08:59

It’s not that difficult to decipher! 😂

Biker47 · 29/11/2019 08:59

I think that some people are in denial that the conservatives only benefit a very few people in the UK who earn around £100k+

The tax free allowance has increased by over 100% in the past 9 years, removing the lowest paid in society from paying any income tax at all, and the threshold for 40% tax has been reduced as well, removing a number of middle earners from that tax rate all together, that doesn't fit your narrative that only people on 6 figures have been benefiting the last few years though.

merrymouse · 29/11/2019 09:01

The tax free allowance has increased by over 100% in the past 9 years, removing the lowest paid in society from paying any income tax at all, and the threshold for 40% tax

Also, many small businesses are affected by corporation tax policy.

Bluntness100 · 29/11/2019 09:01

God, the more labour drop in the polls seems to be directly correlated to how many threads whinging about it there are. Hmm

CallmeAngelina · 29/11/2019 09:01

It’s not that difficult to decipher!

I meant, I suppose, for the poster to explain how Labour intends to "save" the NHS.

merrymouse · 29/11/2019 09:08

Reduced inheritance tax for people passing on family homes may have been a very obvious way to buy votes at the last election, but it works because increasingly that kind of policy doesn't just affect a small minority of voters.

I think people who would have set aside their own self interest for somebody like Blair, are just not convinced by Corbyn.

merrymouse · 29/11/2019 09:09

Sorry, the inheritance tax thing happened in 2015 - easy to lose track...!

x2boys · 29/11/2019 09:09

Labour did a pretty shit job of managing the NHS last time they are in power and whilst I don't think Conservative,s are much better ,unless any party starts to get to grips with mis management and starts I over haul the NHS than its not going to get any better .

Babdoc · 29/11/2019 09:12

I’m a pensioner (retired doctor) who gave 36 years to the NHS. And I will be voting Tory, as I always have.
I’m in an ultra tight marginal (majority of just 21 votes), and the Tory candidate is the only one who can defeat the SNP.
Keeping Scotland in the U.K. is massively more important, for those of us who live here, than any other issue. Labour would sell us out to do a deal with Sturgeon.
And I do not want to become an English expat in what used to be my own country, living in a bankrupt banana republic with no currency, defence forces, or cash reserves to underwrite our own banks.

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/11/2019 09:12

@x2boys exactly! It needs a complete overhaul from the top down! The system doesn't work and hasn't been effective for a long time.

It's piss poor management but because it's a nationalised service they won't do the overhaul that any private company would do to be successful moving forward.

There's no point chucking money at people who don't know how to use it.

Saddler · 29/11/2019 09:13

Not sure what other reasons are required

CheeryB · 29/11/2019 09:14

My parents and most others their age are voting Brexit party

I'm early sixties and I voted remain, as did those of my peers with whom Ive discussed it. In my opinion, it was the high turnout of voters over 50, and the very low turnout of voters under 30 that swung it. You only have to look at the stats to see the numbers.

5zeds · 29/11/2019 09:18

I’m amazed at why so many people want to just stop OP talking about this. It’s fine to discuss your political opinions. It’s fine to do it lots of time. It’s a GOOD idea to talk about why other people feel differently and what has lead them to those conclusions.

Nobody is stopping anyone putting their X anywhere they like, nor forcing them to share where that is or why. If you WANT to talk about it then this is an opportunity. If not there are plenty of parking threads, trans-angst threads, my child is a genius/prodigy threads to chat on.

I’m amazed anyone would vote for Boris. What is the appeal? I think we can dream bigger and try harder than that.

JeffreeStar · 29/11/2019 09:20

Just like any other citizen of the United Kingdom with a constitutional right to vote. I put this little x in the box next to the Conservatives and then pop it in the slot. And that’s how you vote.

JeffreeStar · 29/11/2019 09:21

I don’t Know how anyone can vote for corbyn but it’s not my business...

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/11/2019 09:23

@5zeds people shut OP down because there are about 400 posts with the exact same thing and they all say "I'm genuinely interested" and then argue every valid point you make (or just point blank ignore them).

If they're genuinely interested they can read the other threads, or at least be a little bit neutral with the way they write the post and OP said they're undecided.
If they want a debate they need to be able to have a debate, not just throw abuse around when someone disagrees with them.

Alsohuman · 29/11/2019 09:23

God, the more labour drop in the polls seems to be directly correlated to how many threads whinging about it there are.

It’s nothing to do with poll position. We’re less than a fortnight away from the most crucial election for decades. Of course people are talking about it.

CallmeAngelina · 29/11/2019 09:23

I actually don't have a problem with paying tax, but I do object to it being pissed up the wall on gimmicks like providing "free" broadband for everyone.
Bollocks to that!

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/11/2019 09:24

@Alsohuman it's everything to do with poll position because the hard left want to blame the 'selfish wealthy' rather than the failings in their own party.

5zeds · 29/11/2019 09:25

@JeffreeStar Your contributions are certainly adding an enormous amount to the discussion Grin

MrsNoMopp · 29/11/2019 09:25

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5zeds · 29/11/2019 09:27

@GiveHerHellFromUs but surely as many people discussing the election and other people’s points of view is A GOOD THING? Confused

GiveHerHellFromUs · 29/11/2019 09:28

@5zeds yeah of course it is, if people can do it respectfully. But people don't do it respectfully. They have their views and insult anyone who disagrees.
It's not constructive or productive.

5zeds · 29/11/2019 09:29

I think most MNetters like a robust discussion and don’t shrivel up if they are disagreed with. Anyone being a total arsehole is usually told so and/or reported. As I said if you want to talk about other things you can.

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