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To be glad the latest polls are saying the tories will get a good majority

401 replies

Craft74 · 27/11/2019 23:23

Such a relief for all of us especially for our children who would have been saddled with our debt under Corbyn’s plan

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blubelle7 · 28/11/2019 01:05

Lol, with private healthcare and the NHS sold off bit by bit, selling off your house to pay carehome fees and insurance, plus the overage, that will be the least of your worries. And with a pittance for carer's allowance, no adult children will be able to take time to care for you, so house sold, no more money to pay, insurance that won't pay for anything citing preexisting conditions, no state help you will be dumped somewhere and left to fend for yourself. Maybe it will be better as life expectancy will go down so you might die with less debt than you would if you lived longer. All the while protecting your assets from Corbyn but they would have been depleted within a decade of your retirement. Hey but that's the government you want.

Yappy12 · 28/11/2019 01:06

Of course it's legal to discuss the polls. We don't live in North Korea.

AlexaShutUp · 28/11/2019 01:07

The OP just comes across as being a bit ignorant. He/she would probably benefit from studying a bit of basic economics. Economics for Dummies is quite helpful as a basic introduction.

As for Yappy, I'm 100% certain that he/she is just taking the piss. Nearly had me for a minute but the addition of the Trump and climate change protestations was just a little too OTT to be believable.Wink

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 28/11/2019 01:08

dynami says it best.

Derbee · 28/11/2019 01:08

Biscuit Biscuit Biscuit

StoneofDestiny · 28/11/2019 01:10

craft74 Fact check

The Conservative model – which involves less grant and more investment from housing associations – is arguably more cyclical, and would likely become even more so in a real market downturn. But its peak of 66,700 in 2014/15 beats anything Labour has delivered in recent years*

An important caveat to this, though, is that it includes anything which can be branded affordable and as a result includes shared ownership and ‘affordable’ rents which are up to 80% of market rates. In terms of what is traditionally meant by council housing – socially rented properties – the Conservatives completed divested from them in the 2010 Spending Review. This means the Labour governments of 1997 to 2010 delivered social housing at a far higher rate than the recent Tories

Gardai · 28/11/2019 01:10

North Korea will look like butlins soon.

DeRigueurMortis · 28/11/2019 01:10

Good for who exactly?

Business? Err no, not with the worse than May's Brexit deal...

The NHS? Sold to Trump...

The Waspie Women? No...They stay invisible

Education? No, woeful plans on funding..

The most vulnerable? No, let's keep on with universal credit and squeezing at the bottom end...

Climate change? No, the Tories have the worst policies to address this...

So again - good for who exactly?

I'm lucky wrt household income, but I've seen the impact of Brexit already on the economy in my work sector.

I'm worried about climate change and the NHS.

I should be a target Tory voter given my "profile" but I feel nothing but despair about them winning a majority.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a fan of any of the other parties either right now, but the idea that the Tories under Boris are a safe pair of hands is laughable frightening as fuck.

I'm hugely disappointed in the Labour Party for failing to offer a credible alternative.

The best outcome I can hope for is another hung parliament where the excesses of the Tory partly (because I do think they will be the biggest party) are held in check to a degree.

Then Corbyn resigns and we get a new Labour leader that can actually garner trust and significant electoral support.

DioneTheDiabolist · 28/11/2019 01:11

The promises are uncosted as shown on the Andrew Neil interview!
Not all of them. The "Divorce Settlement" of Brexit has a definite cost. If it is not what Bojo says it is, it will be higher. We can avoid that easily by voting Someone who isn't a Conservative.🤷‍♀️

Drabarni · 28/11/2019 01:14

Not the first post I don't think, remember ramblings of Diane Abbott amongst others.
Obviously a dick from the other threads too.

Gardai · 28/11/2019 01:16

Yes, old Yappy is busy stirring on other pro Tory threads, busy old evening.

crustycrab · 28/11/2019 01:17

Jesus fucking wept. Thank god you're a bot

Drabarni · 28/11/2019 01:17

five threads all started yesterday by a new poster. All saying the same shit.
It's like a bloody Panto round here thee days.

StoneofDestiny · 28/11/2019 01:18

Craft74 fact check

Social housing has fallen 90% since Tories came to power in 2010
Sajid Javid's own admission - Tories have failed in housing !

The fall since 2010 comes after Conservative ministers decided to divert funding for social homes into more expensive types of property, namely "affordable" homes. These are rented out at up to 80 per cent of market value, whereas social rents are typically set at around 50 per cent of market rates

At the same time as funding for new social housing has been reallocated to “affordable” housing, thousands of social homes have been converted into more expensive properties

The Grenfell disaster forced ministers to rethink their approach, with Sajid Javid, then the communities secretary, admitting the Tories had "failed" on housing. The government has commissioned a review of the social housing sector, which is yet to report

StoneofDestiny · 28/11/2019 01:22

If you are going for another thread and name change Craft74 at least get some education first - or say a prayer you never need the NHS ant time soon.

sydslife · 28/11/2019 01:26

Your earning 'far less' than 80k a year and your supporting conservative? Madness

Gardai · 28/11/2019 01:27

Craft74 is sitting in his mums house fapping away at his ingenious wonderfulness at starting internet arguments with all those women on Mumsnet.

DioneTheDiabolist · 28/11/2019 01:29

Ah come on now folks, the OP is clearly a Labour bot.😂😂😂

RuggerHug · 28/11/2019 01:33

As an outsider, and knowing it's a bot.

If they said the truth, silent majority.

If they're talking bollocks, well you know what you're against.

Fight the cunts, use your vote for good.

SpaghettiSharon · 28/11/2019 02:02

@Yappy12 the joke wasn’t hugely funny in your first post but repeating it every 5 posts is even less so.

Tillygetsit · 28/11/2019 02:17

YABVVVU. I'm terrified.

Trebla · 28/11/2019 03:00

The country is not a business and as such should not be run like one. The economic needs of the UK are unique and separate from the economic opportunities being mined by the Tory party whilst in power
And therein lies the issue. Business and politics do not mix. Different skillsets, ethical principles and philosophical foci are needed to run a country. The Tories use their time in power to line their pockets and strip mine the country like scrap merchants. Humans are not a commodity and as such the Tories should fuck off.

Pixxie7 · 28/11/2019 03:58

Ok op let’s accept for a moment your right how do you propose solving our current problems?
Child poverty
Homeless
To name a couple.

berringer · 28/11/2019 05:01

Anyone else feel like they are drowning?

ivykaty44 · 28/11/2019 08:08

Op you keep stating about debt, yet the Tory party have increased the debt more than labour, so where is your evidence that the Tory party won’t increase the debt further still?