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To be glad the latest polls are saying the tories will get a good majority

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Craft74 · 27/11/2019 23:23

Such a relief for all of us especially for our children who would have been saddled with our debt under Corbyn’s plan

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user1471448556 · 28/11/2019 00:34

OP - calm your panic about Corbyn. He will not get a majority - the maths is not there. He would have to share power with others. Vote tactically to stop the Tories or say bye to the NHS - we won’t get it back.

woolie34 · 28/11/2019 00:34

Yanbu if that's how you feel. It's sad. You feel that way though, as I think your children will be worse off under thee tories, but that's my opinion. It looks like the tories will win, so I hope for all our sakes they will magically grow a social conscience over night and do what's best for everyone in the country, not just the highest earners. Not holding my breath though.

Monkeynuts18 · 28/11/2019 00:34

We are years away from "Brexit happening" - Johnson's shit about making it happen is as big a con as the 'facts' he dished up leading to the referendum 3 years ago.

Indeed. Anyone who spouts the ‘get Brexit done’ nonsense is showing that a) they don’t really understand what Brexit is and b) they haven’t read even the headline points of Boris’ ‘deal’ (so how they think they have a right to an opinion on it I’ve no idea).

Boris’ deal is an agreement to do some further agreeing. Agreeing a ‘deal’ simply fires the starting gun on decades of expensive and time-consuming negotiations on various fronts.

Yappy12 · 28/11/2019 00:34

I mean come on folks, who gives a fuck if an inch is melting off an iceberg every year when we have important issues like Brexit.

MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:35

Bankers caused Austerity aided by the Tories. Honestly OP you're fooling no-one. Take your nonsense and do one

StoneofDestiny · 28/11/2019 00:37

Austerity only came about as the labour government spent too much and didn’t save for a crisis

Bollox
Do you know any genuinely unemployed people struggling to get a job that is not 'zero hours'?
Volunteered at any homeless shelters and heard their stories?
Got any disabled friends or relatives?
Tried to get affordable care for a dependant parent?
Had any family members in hospital recently?
Live near a failing school?
Had to wait 3 weeks for a doctors appointment?
Found your crime 'downgraded' recently because of insufficient police to respond?
Is your local prison in Special Measures?

Because if your are experiencing none of this you are living on another planet to most of the UK.

Craft74 · 28/11/2019 00:37

@MintChocAddict not new at all, here for 5 years or so, I may not have the same opinions as you but welcome you here and happy to debate anything. Would not want you to leave.

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GrumpyHoonMain · 28/11/2019 00:39

Austerity was a response to the financial crisis which was caused by HSBC USA and the big US banks selling huge amounts of bad US mortgage debt into funds around the world without clearly labelling it. How did the David Cameron, whose family made their money via HSBC shares respond? By nationalising banks.

They believe in nationalising when it lines their pockets or benefits their benefactors. But somehow Labour wanting to do the same with Rail is a bad thing??

Gardai · 28/11/2019 00:40

YABU
And your a goady hairy (Tory) dick.

DioneTheDiabolist · 28/11/2019 00:40

Austerity was a Tory devised, political solution based on the poorest paying for the sins of bankers.

Banks fucked poor people over.
Austerity is a political policy making the poorest in our society pay for banker's mistakes. Typical Tory shite.

Craft74 · 28/11/2019 00:41

Stoneofdestiny

This happened because labour cocked up the economy. Labour spent too much tories have tried to solve it. You can’t keep the levels of spending if you don’t have the money! Why can’t anyone understand this!

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Gardai · 28/11/2019 00:41

Oh go to bed OP you are boring.

MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:42

Craft74
Grin You're still a dick

MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:42

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MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:42

Go away

StoneofDestiny · 28/11/2019 00:43

No but I do worship the ground Boris walks on

Some seriously maladjusted thinking there - see an NHS doctor ASAP. Get in quick as appointments are scarce.

We've needed a strong decisive PM for ages

What like Hitler? Mussolini? Pol Pot? All very decisive - right wing - and seriously warped.

TopBitchoftheWitches · 28/11/2019 00:43

The Tories have lost this election by messing about with the NHS. Never mind.

MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:43

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TorysSuckRevokeArticle50 · 28/11/2019 00:44

"no I’m not on the top 5% earning £80k I wish, much much less, less than half, as a lower earner I will be taxed more if labour got in because of the marriage couple tax allowance removal."

But there would be higher living wage and higher provision of free childcare (all 2 yr olds getting 30 hrs free a week, approx £200 a week).

Given that the purpose of the marriage allowance (max £250 per year) was to support families with part time working parents and minimum wage workers the new allowances would mitigate the loss of marriage allowance, while opening up more support for single parents and low earning couples.

GrumpyHoonMain · 28/11/2019 00:44

Japan is proof that austerity doesn’t work. Countries need to spend themselves out of recessions and yet the Tories failed to learn basic fucking Economics lessons

MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:44

Snores loudly at OP

MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:44

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MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:44

Still boring on OP

MintChocAddict · 28/11/2019 00:45

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Gardai · 28/11/2019 00:45

Oh god aye, a big blonde fat arsehole entitled public philandering school boy for PM...my kids would be so proud of me voting for that thing.

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