To wonder why MN hates Dublin?

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I am Irish. I'm watching the Irish version of newsnight and it's all about MN bad reviews of Dublin. We have lots of problems here but I don't get that people would dislike us that much?

The traffic is really bad, and the Temple Bar area is a bit fake.

Other than that it is great :)

wiggly I've always thought Dublin was quite like Edinburgh but I've visited more recently than you! Except Dublin is more literary and Trinity is fab.

Belfast strikes me as more like Glasgow (from architecture to attitude).

What?! It was on News Night?

What about the farmers?!! (Didnt watch as I was catching up with the Young Offenders. Well that and also because I don't usually watch.)

It’s the only city I’ve been to that I really hated. Very expensive, found the people in pubs and restaurants quite rude and unfriendly and it wasn’t that pleasant to walk around really.

Squig it was Prime Time, I was trying to explain to people not familiar with RTE.

It's absolutely nothing like Edinburgh! Edinburgh is beautiful.

I don't love it, TBH, but I've only known it in autumn/winter, and lots of cities aren't at their best then.

I was shocked, a few weeks ago, to realise that Trinity is lower than the pavement outside it, so when it rains the options are 1) sand barriers to high heaven or 2) accept there's a river running in through the door.

It's either charmingly laid back or just very weird. Like no one has noticed we're not living in the Middle Ages and it's no longer normal for gutter-water to be washing into all your fancy buildings?

Jesus, can we not start it all over again? There was an endless thread all about it. The Irish Times did a piece on a slow news day last week, which made It sound like the results of some official survey, not people talking on a chat forum, and now other places are picking it up.

Oh gawd - I evidently mixed up the names and thought you were talking about RTE (hence my farmers comment). So I got it wrong, but right at the same time.

Not going to lie, I'm.still a teeny bit confused (when teeny bit mean very.)

Dh went recently, eye wateringly expensive is all he came away with, no inclination to go back ( he's Irish but not brought up there)

I live in Dublin and almost all my friends, Irish and non-Irish, hate it for the same reasons... the mumsnet thread must have struck a nerve!!

IMHO, Dublin is not exactly the most happening European capital, but doesn't have the upside of being clean and safe that lots of boring European cities do. You also have to squint in most places for it to seem remotely beautiful lol! Unless you're on the luas, and even then rush hour is horrendous (and housing is poorly zoned so in the medium term future it won't have the capacity for the population), transport infrastructure isn't great and everything is expensive. A single G&T is easily a tenner! There's been such a hollowing out of cultural venues recently to be replaced by hotels and offices and a big sense of alienation and frustration among young people and creatives.

I live here for my career and convenience - and I do love Dublin deep down! - but I can definitely see the common criticisms having merit.

ps it's nothing like Edinburgh and DEFINITELY not more literary!

I have to say I didn't see an earlier thread. I started this on the basis of a programme on Irish TV.

Oh, sorry @Gallivespian, didn't see the other thread properly (I was dimly aware of it but didn't make it very far) and didn't think before posting.

I'm sure it has good things and bad, like any city. It's weird what makes it into the news on a slow news day.

I love Dublin. When booking a weekend away it's always my first choice.

Jesus, can we not start it all over again?
So should we all just ignore OP and let them shout questions into the void?

Oh, I’m not censoring this thread, @Sarah, but the other one was lengthy and vituperative!

It's fine - I get why it would be annoying to see it repeated! I was being thoughtless.

I would like to know, though, why a PP says Dublin isn't safe? I'm genuinely asking out of concern now. I've been travelling there for the past couple of months and have no option except to be walking around at 4-6am, and so far have been fine, but I would like to know if I am putting myself at risk!

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/3722722-Short-break-Why-is-Dublin-so-bad

This was the previous one, for anyone who wasn’t on it.

I do think it's like Edinburgh. I worked in Edinburgh for years. Both cities have a strong image that they present to tourists and which is at odds with the experiences of the people who live and work there. They both have some impressive architecture. And they both have heavily marketed tourist areas that don't give a sense of the real city. You need to consciously scratch below the surface.

I'm a Dub living in England. At the end of the day, it might be a shithole but it's MY shithole and it's home.

I like Dublin. I'm there to see bands from time to time - NCH or Whelans. I've been to the odd museum, and more often to the shops. Sod Jervis though, that's demic. There's a good cake shop/cafe not far from Vicar Street. On the whole, it's a great place. If you take comfortable shoes. Everything is far.

I like Glasgow, too. But not Edinburgh, can't stand the place.

Ooh I'm off to the player OP. Wasn't watching PT tonight.

I don't hate Dublin, I just found it a bit meh, expensive meh.

Dublin is great. I’m English and have lived in Dublin for years, never found any antiEnglish sentiment whatsoever. Sure, people take the piss sometimes but it’s just in fun. Course it has a few Neanderthals too but where doesn’t. It’s not a beautiful city, but it is fun, vibrant and bustling. Many of those who dismiss it just spend a couple of days on Graffton Street and Temple Bar. It’s better as a city to live in than a tourist city. It’s cosmopolitan and got a nice energy to the place, much more so than say Belfast, Edinburgh or Glasgow. I’d probably only rate London as superior in terms of what I look for in a city within the British Isles - that hard to pin down feeling of vibrancy.

It's Cork the Young Offenders is set in? I assume there are much nicer bits than the ones they cycle round, though it looks pretty interesting too! I can get cheap flights to Dublin and almost fell off my chair when I looked for a hotel to go with that. Definitely dear, I'd still like to go though.