To think more than 1.6mil ppl are on £80k if mumsnet is anything to go by?!?

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www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/22/question-time-80000-super-rich-earning-workers

This article is saying 1.6mil ppl are on 80k. How is that possible when a salary thread comes up on mumsnet, practically everyone claims to have a 100k plus salary?!!

@ClownsandCowboys, they will always be some who don't, but I am surprised that as professionals you know you'll never earn this combined. Why is it an absolute impossibility? Have you both always worked ft? Have you both been applying for better paid jobs? How far off are you?

The flip side of this is that I don't think I know more than a couple out of fifty odd close social acquaintances who are on less than 25k FTE.

One SAHM who dabbles in tutoring to supplement the family income... can't think of any other obvious candidate?

Our lowest FTE salary at work is about 23k, but includes training funding on top.

My father lived in Australia at a time when there were a lot of immigrants from Germany. He was very fond on a cartoon from the Sydney Morning Herald of a dachshund saying “Back home in Germany I was an Alsatian”.....
Everyone on Mumsnet has at least 2 degrees, at least one from “Oxbridge”, earns at least 100K and has children in the top 10% academically.

@emilybrontescorsett. Hahahah. We took a tour of a private school. I remember me and my dh has a laugh about the names. One was Tarquin. None were Chanel. 😂

to be fair, on MN everyone who earns more than you has too much money and should be taxed more heavily

that's more realistic to describe the forum

I'm on £17.5k in a graduate job. The idea that anyone is on 80k baffles me - although I'm sure the executives I work for are 🙄

@Dontdisturbmenow combined we are close to £60k. Both work full time. DH works in local government and I am in the third sector. I have applied for higher salaried jobs, DH is probably at the top of his, unless he wants to take on high level management.

Our dd is autistic and therefore most higher level jobs are not possible as I am trying to move part time and we need both of us here in the evening. Neither of us can take the extra stress.

@ClownsandCowboys, you make my point. Your oh could go for a higher level management but doesn't want to and you want to go pt. Totally understandable, and maybe I would have done the same in your situation, it's about priorities, but the point is that if your priority was to earn £80k or ose to, you could do so.

Those on £80k wanted to do so and maybe sacrificed other things that you have decided is more important than extra money.

I had a very stressful job on £65k that was taking its toll on me, so I decided to give it up for much less money. I have no regrets but it was a choice to make.

More council houses could help with that, @Thesispieces. Not gonna get them by voting Tory.

"Everyone on Mumsnet has at least 2 degrees, at least one from “Oxbridge”, earns at least 100K and has children in the top 10% academically."

I have one degree, did not go to Oxbridge and my graduate son drives a van for a living on about £23k (full time, shifts) (although I do earn a fair bit)

Everyone on Mumsnet has at least 2 degrees, at least one from “Oxbridge”, earns at least 100K and has children in the top 10% academically.

See, this really fucks me off. Because you get people posting, and you can just tell it's all bollocks. They're that pathetic and sad they invent themselves on the internet as genius millionaires with Einstein offspring. But what they do, is set a precedent for anyone genuinely in any of those categories, to be branded a liar by keyboard warrior gobshites.

I'm a chartered accountant and with a separate degree in business and finance. And I'm fucking proud of it. Absolutely boils my piss when some gobby Sharon who's telling someone incorrectly (and potentially detrimentally) how something financial works, gets the arse when I step in and offer the correct advice. It usually goes something like this:

Sharon: "Yeah, so you call the tax man and report your wanker ex for fraud. They'll freeze his accounts and arrest him and it'll go in the papers"
Me: "Actually, don't do that, there's no fraud being committed, it's not actually something HMRC will even look into"
Sharon: "Says who?"
Me: "Me. As a qualified accountant, with a degree in business and finance. Please, don't tell OP to do that, she could actually cause herself problems"
Sharon: "Hahahaha, yeah whatever everyone on MN has two degrees, shut up"

It's infuriating.

I have a very high level professional qualification. And a degree. Not from Oxbridge. I've earned very decent money in my own right and now I earn sod all as I choose to be a sahm. DH is on a significant 6 figure salary. Because he just is. DS is super bright. He also has ADHD alongside other issues, and is borderline unmanageable for much of the time. On paper, he'll be in the top 1% of academic performance. Would I swap that for in the top 50% with no behavioural difficulties? In a heartbeat.

So, actually, there are many of us on here, very educated, in households with good incomes, and with bright children. And it's getting old, when Sharon who can't differentiate between there, their and they're, calls "bullshit" because they don't want to believe it. Mainly because it's not something they will experience, and they have the keyboard warrior persona to hide behind and attempt to mock anyone who they feel is in any form of superior situation to them.

Yes most of them 'work from home' 3 days a week and earn like £90k. F off, seriously. I work from home more than part time and I earn £10k. Real life people!

Yes most of them 'work from home' 3 days a week and earn like £90k. F off, seriously. I work from home more than part time and I earn £10k. Real life people!

So true. And they're the ones on here getting sad little kicks, trying to mock and discredit people who have genuinely achieved a high level of education or income.

courtney

I can see how that would be bloody infuriating

This is why most tax should be on wealth not income.

F off, seriously. I work from home more than part time and I earn £10k. Real life people!
but someone earning a lot more than you for the same days is also real life.. that's the point.

but someone earning a lot more than you for the same days is also real life.. that's the point.

Absolutely true as well. But you can usually differentiate the "I work from home, it's taken a few years to build up, and now I can comfortably do around three days a week, and average £50k a year" from the "I do 3 days a week, I'm on £100k, I've got two degrees, in my 2 days off, I dust our 7 bed country pile in 25 minutes whilst my preschool children perform algebra"

@isabellerossignol been on here maybe a year. There seems to be an awful lot of bitterness (and I'm not referring the the OP here). Clearly some people need to find better things to do.
My point is we're all different, so there'll always be someone worse off and someone better off than you. That's life and people need to deal with their own individual circumstances. Having a pop at people isn't going to change things, it just smacks of insecurities and bitterness.
Some comments on here are utterly ridiculous though and I have to stop myself from telling those people to STFU

It isn't having a pop, it's knowing for sure they don't work casual hours or part time from home and earn £90k because they never seem to reveal what it is they actually do when people ask! By all means, I'm happy to listen to someone that manages to work from home a couple of days a week and earn a huge salary AS LONG AS THEY TELL US WHAT IT IS THEY ACTUALLY DO. That was what my F off referred to

Where you live is absolutely crucial. If you live in the far north or the far south west or Wales you are probably well off in less than £80k household income as it buys a lot in terms of renting or buying housing.

My daughter and her husband have a combined income of £100k in London (he earns much more than her) and live in rented accommodation in a not very salubrious area. The only way they'll be able to get on the property ladder is if their parents help with a deposit and even then they would not be able to buy a house only a flat. If they move to a cheaper area of the country her job would transfer (NHS) but his is London-centric. So arguably people elsewhere on smaller salaries are better off.

I don't think we should underestimate the influence of location.

I don't need affordable housing, I've bought a house and have a mortgage 🙃. It's fine that you earn what you earn, I was talking about honesty and I don't believe half of these people are being honest! I don't work 40 hours either but I can't remember saying I did 🤔

I always wonder this. We live in the north west in a fairly average town I think! But someone on £80,000 would be considered wealthy by everyone I know.

Having said that the scout group we belong to recently had to start offering payment plans for £5 camp costs. People are really struggling at the moment - £80,000 seems like millions to a lot of people.

Personally we get around half that and are comfortable day to day but not rich

Who cares whether someone believes what you say about yourself on the internet? Bizarre.