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Lex234 · 24/11/2019 08:09

I was going to NC for this partly because it is outing but mainly because the back story is excruciatingly embarassing, but I have got to the stage where I am fed up of apologising for and being embarassed of others' actions. There is a back story, sorry if it is long.

My mother had me when she was very young. She was married to my dad briefly when I was 3. We mainly lived with her parents. When I was 5, she told me that she was in love with his dad (grandfather-still very much married to my grandmother) but I had to keep this a secret. I have since found out that she also stole thousands of pounds from her mother and father, embezzled from her job (her father had to pay it back or she would have gone to prison), ran up drug debts and did many other terrible things that led to her being disowned by many of her extended family. Around that time she moved into a flat, taking me with her. I don't remember much, other than strange men coming and going/sleeping on a mattress on the floor/being left alone at night whilst she went to the pub nearby. It lasted about a month before she sent me back to live with her parents. Shortly after this, she effectively fucked off out of my life, grandfather left grandmother to live with her. You can imagine the fallout from this. Also around this time my grandmother on my mother's side died, leaving my grandad (mums side) with a full time job and a very confused 6 year old child to manage amongst his own grief. My DF went for custody and was awarded full. My mother didn't even show up at the custody hearing. DF remarried and I could start a whole other thread on abusive stepmothers, but not really relevant. I saw my mother maybe twice in the first year of this, both times with "him". She then disappeared from my life.

Will try and skip a load of irrelevant details, but when I was 18 I tried to reconnect with her. She had sporadically stayed in touch with her father and brother. It was a disaster. All she wanted to do was discuss the past, how sorry she was, how bad her life had been etc. All I wanted to do was forget. She was still living with grandfather she left me for. Contact effectively stopped, I could not deal with the late night pissed up phone calls from her, the constant need to revisit the past, which I found painful and her acting like she loved me/knew me-she had not seen me for 12 years!I did feel sad I was clearly never goong to have a mother/daughter relationship but what you never have you never miss.

3 years later my own father died. I won't even try to describe how heartbroken I was. He was my rock. Due to the wonderful family set up my mother had created, the task fell on me to go and tell my dad's father as none of his other children speak to him. I had no telephone number only an address so I had to go in person. He wasn't in so I had to tell my mother. She started crying, shaking, wailing. I stood there with my mouth open as she pulled off an Oscar worthy performance in acute grief for a man she had not seen in 15 years. I took her number to let them know of the funeral arrangements. Despite knowing I now had a young baby, this was seen as an invitation to call at all hours of the night absolutely rat arsed, proclaiming my dad was the only man she had ever loved, how shit her life was, how sorry she was. It got so bad I had to change my number. I agreed to allow contact via messenger only. This was sporadic and always self pitying. No real attempt to build a relationship with me and sometimes full of dramatic announcements (such as her saying I had better go and get tested for breast cancer as she had been told she was high risk and it was hereditary-turned out to be lies).

Around 7 years ago, my mother's father was terminally ill. Again the task fell on me to get in touch with my mother and as no other family member will speak to her, I also had to basically act as family liaison. After he died, I was devastated-he was a huge part of mine and my children's lives. On the day of his funeral, his sister spent the entire journey in the funeral procession bollocking me for my mother's past actions and how she had better behave at the funeral. I am sick of taking the responsibility for her!I was a fucking child!!!!

About 6 months ago she got back in touch. She said dad's father was now emotionally and physically abusing her, she was fearing for her life, she was under police protection, he had ran off with a younger woman. From past experiences, I was somewhat sceptical. However, I then discovered from another source he had indeed moved out, but was terminally ill. I messaged her and asked whether he was unwell. She said she did not know, she had not seen him. Not really wanting to get into it, I left it at that.

Last night though, I was told he has died. They were together 30 years. And guess who gets to tell her? I have no idea how to have this conversation with her. She is apparently unaware. I know she recently had surgery and I don't want to hurt her, despite everything. How do I have this conversation??

Can someone please offer some advice as to how the fuck I tell her this? Also I am so sorry for the ridiculously long post but I wanted to explain the back story so you could understand why this is so hard to discuss!

Thanks for any help offered!

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Lex234 · 24/11/2019 09:13

I have allowed sporadic contact via messenger, which is how I would contact her.

I just want to say thank you for such kind advice, I wasn't sure what reception I would get but you have made me see this much more clearly. I do not owe her a thing. I know that deep down.

And to PP who asked how my life is-stealth boast-but I have been incredibly lucky, been married for 13 years, 3 beautiful children and a great career. I know I am far luckier than many people so not all doom and gloom :)

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Sillyscrabblegames · 24/11/2019 09:13

Honestly, why are you continually reinitiating contact with her? You are not responsible for all these dysfunctional relationships.
Nothing is left to you just because no one else bothers or because their relationships are ruined. So is yours.
Focus on your real life.

Sillyscrabblegames · 24/11/2019 09:14

And you sound amazing despite all this nonsense in the past. Let it go and do so without guilt x

Lex234 · 24/11/2019 09:15

@Sillyscrabblegames when I was 18, because I wanted a relationship with my mother. The other times because I was asked to, as I have been this time.

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Cuddlysnowleopard · 24/11/2019 09:19

You absolutely don't have to contact her. You don't owe her anything, neither legally nor morally. Whoever is telling you that you should tell her is wrong.

Step back from this now, see if you arrange some counselling to help you. You are remarkably strong, considering everything that you have gone through.

MsRomanoff · 24/11/2019 09:20

OP allowing her into your life, repeatedly, even though she is awful is something you keep doing.

You keep doing it because you get something out of it. Probably, approval from others. That feeds something inside you. You have been conditioned to want to make others think certain things about you.

We only repeat the same behaviour, if we get something out of it

You need to look at breaking that habit of doing things because others ask you to and you wanting their approval.

Dentures101 · 24/11/2019 09:22

Are we half sisters? My mum has pulled a few of the tricks on your list. Not all but some. I had to tell her when my dad died. She hadn't seen him for 11 years and I was trying to get back into contact. But he died before I was able to see him. I called her to tell her. She then disappeared leaving the 2 small kids at home without telling anyone. Luckily her husband arrived not long after she left from work. She then went and got drunk at her friends house (she doesn't drink, strong meds) then called me a few days later to say she always thought they would get back together 😂 she had remarried. When they seperated she made him sleep on the sofa. Fair enough. Except she moved my then step dad. (1st of a couple) in upstairs to their bed while he was downstairs in the living room 2 weeks later.

She then cut contact with me and him and she thought they would always get back together and she was heart broken and he was the only man she ever loved. What utter shite that was. Amongst many other things we are now NC

Dentures101 · 24/11/2019 09:23

Back to your OP. I wouldn't bother telling her!

Lex234 · 24/11/2019 09:23

You're right @MsRomanoff I am constantly seeking approval for being strong and doing the right thing. Thank you I know what I need to do now.

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MissingMySleep · 24/11/2019 09:24

Don't bother. You owe her nothing.

RandomMess · 24/11/2019 09:24

Pass on what contact information you have for her to the funeral directors and tbh block her on messenger!!!

Next time anyone mentions your mother to you, I would pick a phrase and say something like "you mean my incubator/birth mother the one I am nothing like that I have nothing to do with?" Any dumping responsibility on you "what has that got to do with me - my DC are x y z not her?"

TBH I would step away from your extended family because they are perpetuating your belief that you are somehow responsible for your mother Confused

Lex234 · 24/11/2019 09:25

@Dentures101 I'm so sorry for what you have been through, but it is comforting that someone else understands Smile

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Dentures101 · 24/11/2019 09:26

Lex. It's surprising how many people have these experiences. It amazes me how the human race has survived sometimes!

ASandwichNamedKevin · 24/11/2019 09:26

Well Lex this time you say no to whoever asked you. That woman is not your problem, you owe her nothing and in fact if you don't value yourself enough not to contact her, just think of it as protecting your DH and children from her influence.

When you can, seek some help to process your abusive childhood.
It's not normal, it never was, but none of it is your fault or responsibility. Flowers

CharityConundrum · 24/11/2019 09:27

Unforunately no other person will even consider contacting her because of how she is or how she has treated them in the past.

So you can understand them not wanting to get in touch because of the way she has treated them, but she's treated you worst of all! Give yourself permission to do what you can see everyone else doing- establishing boundaries to protect themselves from her!

Dentures101 · 24/11/2019 09:27

Agree with sandwhich. I went NC for my kids sake. It will be better for all of you

45andfine · 24/11/2019 09:27

She chose her life. Every single step of it. You aren't responsible for her. If she cared about this man, she would've found out by now.

Set some strong boundaries for your future, with your baby.

It's not selfish, it's an act of bravery to exclude her now from your life.

Good luck xx

thecatfromjapan · 24/11/2019 09:27

That seeking approval may well come from a need to prove you are not your mother. And that may well come from people unconsciously giving you the message that they want you to prove to them you are not your mother.

It's so inappropriate. So wrong. So controlling.

So limiting for you.

Time to throw off these chains from the past.

TheTrollFairy · 24/11/2019 09:29

Your mum was abusive to you in the way she treated you. You are not her parent and you owe her nothing.
Once you have children, you realise how bad the abuse was that you suffered as a child and it makes it even harder to comprehend. Do not allow this woman the chance to be back in your life, you deserve to be able to go on without the constant worry of her phoning you pissed at night time.

I think getting the funeral home to make contact is the best way

Lex234 · 24/11/2019 09:30

@thecatfromjapan that is exactly what it is, I feel like I have been the black sheep my whole life and people are waiting for me to fuck it up. Thank you. Your posts have cut deep because they are so true.

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MsRomanoff · 24/11/2019 09:35

Thank you I know what I need to do now.

No need to thank me. You deserve some support from people who only have your best interests at heart Flowers

thecatfromjapan · 24/11/2019 09:37

You are not to blame. 💐💐💐💐

Take care of yourself.

You are strong enough. You are enough.

❤️❤️

ivykaty44 · 24/11/2019 09:37

Stop allowing this to be your responsibility, it’s not. Let someone else tell her, don’t organise anything

Lex234 · 24/11/2019 09:41

I am going to tell the person who asked me to get the funeral directors to contact her. Feel like that is the kindest I can manage amd for PPs who said about protecting my DC-there is no way in any reality that woman will ever know my children, she does not deserve to and I would never risk exposing them to her. She has never and will never meet them.

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KittyMarion · 24/11/2019 09:41

I agree, you owe her absolutely nothing. Relationships need to be reciprocal.

Also, the shame is not yours. You have done absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. Keep talking about what has happened to people you know won't reject you.