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Lex234 · 24/11/2019 08:09

I was going to NC for this partly because it is outing but mainly because the back story is excruciatingly embarassing, but I have got to the stage where I am fed up of apologising for and being embarassed of others' actions. There is a back story, sorry if it is long.

My mother had me when she was very young. She was married to my dad briefly when I was 3. We mainly lived with her parents. When I was 5, she told me that she was in love with his dad (grandfather-still very much married to my grandmother) but I had to keep this a secret. I have since found out that she also stole thousands of pounds from her mother and father, embezzled from her job (her father had to pay it back or she would have gone to prison), ran up drug debts and did many other terrible things that led to her being disowned by many of her extended family. Around that time she moved into a flat, taking me with her. I don't remember much, other than strange men coming and going/sleeping on a mattress on the floor/being left alone at night whilst she went to the pub nearby. It lasted about a month before she sent me back to live with her parents. Shortly after this, she effectively fucked off out of my life, grandfather left grandmother to live with her. You can imagine the fallout from this. Also around this time my grandmother on my mother's side died, leaving my grandad (mums side) with a full time job and a very confused 6 year old child to manage amongst his own grief. My DF went for custody and was awarded full. My mother didn't even show up at the custody hearing. DF remarried and I could start a whole other thread on abusive stepmothers, but not really relevant. I saw my mother maybe twice in the first year of this, both times with "him". She then disappeared from my life.

Will try and skip a load of irrelevant details, but when I was 18 I tried to reconnect with her. She had sporadically stayed in touch with her father and brother. It was a disaster. All she wanted to do was discuss the past, how sorry she was, how bad her life had been etc. All I wanted to do was forget. She was still living with grandfather she left me for. Contact effectively stopped, I could not deal with the late night pissed up phone calls from her, the constant need to revisit the past, which I found painful and her acting like she loved me/knew me-she had not seen me for 12 years!I did feel sad I was clearly never goong to have a mother/daughter relationship but what you never have you never miss.

3 years later my own father died. I won't even try to describe how heartbroken I was. He was my rock. Due to the wonderful family set up my mother had created, the task fell on me to go and tell my dad's father as none of his other children speak to him. I had no telephone number only an address so I had to go in person. He wasn't in so I had to tell my mother. She started crying, shaking, wailing. I stood there with my mouth open as she pulled off an Oscar worthy performance in acute grief for a man she had not seen in 15 years. I took her number to let them know of the funeral arrangements. Despite knowing I now had a young baby, this was seen as an invitation to call at all hours of the night absolutely rat arsed, proclaiming my dad was the only man she had ever loved, how shit her life was, how sorry she was. It got so bad I had to change my number. I agreed to allow contact via messenger only. This was sporadic and always self pitying. No real attempt to build a relationship with me and sometimes full of dramatic announcements (such as her saying I had better go and get tested for breast cancer as she had been told she was high risk and it was hereditary-turned out to be lies).

Around 7 years ago, my mother's father was terminally ill. Again the task fell on me to get in touch with my mother and as no other family member will speak to her, I also had to basically act as family liaison. After he died, I was devastated-he was a huge part of mine and my children's lives. On the day of his funeral, his sister spent the entire journey in the funeral procession bollocking me for my mother's past actions and how she had better behave at the funeral. I am sick of taking the responsibility for her!I was a fucking child!!!!

About 6 months ago she got back in touch. She said dad's father was now emotionally and physically abusing her, she was fearing for her life, she was under police protection, he had ran off with a younger woman. From past experiences, I was somewhat sceptical. However, I then discovered from another source he had indeed moved out, but was terminally ill. I messaged her and asked whether he was unwell. She said she did not know, she had not seen him. Not really wanting to get into it, I left it at that.

Last night though, I was told he has died. They were together 30 years. And guess who gets to tell her? I have no idea how to have this conversation with her. She is apparently unaware. I know she recently had surgery and I don't want to hurt her, despite everything. How do I have this conversation??

Can someone please offer some advice as to how the fuck I tell her this? Also I am so sorry for the ridiculously long post but I wanted to explain the back story so you could understand why this is so hard to discuss!

Thanks for any help offered!

OP posts:
Costacoffeeplease · 24/11/2019 08:52

No, you don’t need to tell her, I think you’ve done your bit and where has it got you? Just leave her in the past and refuse to put up with any more drama around her and her situation, put yourself first

Summercamping · 24/11/2019 08:52

Another one who thinks you have no responsibility here. I am sorry for what you've been through

Put your efforts into yourself now, and let your mother go. Flowers

katewhinesalot · 24/11/2019 08:53

You sound incredibly sorted for someone who had been through what you have.
You owe her nothing. Give her no more of yourself than you are emotionally able to. She isn't your responsibility.

PlaymobilPirate · 24/11/2019 08:54

Message and ask for her address. Send a letter by recorded delivery then block messenger. You owe her nothing

Oliversmumsarmy · 24/11/2019 08:55

Does your mother really need to know.

They weren’t together and like your father dying I can’t see the reason why she needed to know.

Getting in touch to tell her news is just signalling that she is a part of something

Her actions say she hasn’t anything to do with anyone.

The person who told you can tell her if they so wish.

Otherwise keep out of it.

CalmdownJanet · 24/11/2019 08:55

Don't tell her, fuck her, she gave you a shitty life and you owe that bitch nothing. Move on, she will continue to do this to you until the day she dies, alone, stop the cycle. And don't go to the funeral, leave these people in your past

katewhinesalot · 24/11/2019 08:56

And forget the care thing. That's ridiculous. She is NOT your responsibility. No way.

bananasandwicheseveryday · 24/11/2019 08:59

I really don't think it is your responsibility to tell her - she clearly wasn't that worried about him or she would have known already, especially as, from what you say, she probably knew he was terminally I'll when they separated.
However, if you really feel you have to tell her, and assuming you have a number for her this is what I'd do. I'd get a cheap mobile and a ten pound top up ( tesco are currently selling one for £14.99 including the top up ). I'd use that to call her and let her know and then I'd turn the phone off and not use it again. I think £15 is a bargain if it enables you to do what you feel is the right thing without having any comeback from her.

thecatfromjapan · 24/11/2019 08:59

I can see why people would bring you up that way - it makes it so much easier to manage, doesn't it?

And your mother almost certainly has mental health issues, which none of the adults in her life had the first clue how to deal with.

Making a child the go-between for communication with her (and then responsible for her and to blame when it - inevitably - goes pear-shaped) makes everyone's life easier (except yours).

When it's written down, by someone else, you can see it's nuts, can't you?

And outrageous.

Sadly, a lot of your family's behaviour - when it comes to you and your mother - is a bit dysfunctional.

I'm sure it's not conscious malice.

It just works to make life easier for the majority.

Sadly, you're suffering.

Time to take card of yourself, my darling.

💐💐💐

MsRomanoff · 24/11/2019 09:00

I definitely do not want to have her in my life and I must admit that I have occasionally wondered if one day I will be expected to care for her when she gets older as she will have nobody else.*

OP please go get some professional support. It's entirely normal for children who have grown up like you to 'get over it' and think 'I dont let it it impact me', it's also entirely normal to realise you were wrong. Ita does impact you and you havent just got over it.

If you dont get help to break this 'but she has a right' you will end up caring for her in her old age

Your entire life will have evolved around what her rights are and what she wants and needs.

Ninjakittysmellz · 24/11/2019 09:00

I agree with someone up thread - you have done enough lovely, hand this to the funeral directors. They are used to dealing with situations like this, and it removes you out the equation Flowers

Cornishclio · 24/11/2019 09:01

I think given your lack of proper relationship with her you should not tell her anything. She has never been a proper mother to you and has dysfunctional relationships with everyone else. She will make your grandfathers death all about her. You don't know how to contact her so just let her go and focus on your family. That does not include this awful excuse for a mother. You reap as you sow and she sounds like she has never cared properly for you as a child so does not deserve your care as she grows older.

Lex234 · 24/11/2019 09:03

I like the funeral directors idea! I am hearing everything you are all posting, but it is a very difficult mindset to break when I have throughout my life had to shoulder the burden of everything she has done. Had to explain that tale to everyone when they have asked where my mum is. Been told off for it. Been told I am just like her (I look like her).

I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of attending the funeral. He is nothing to me.

OP posts:
Howlovely · 24/11/2019 09:03

I found your post really shocking and sad. No child should have to go through that. Please try to start to see your mother as the abuser that she is. She is also a stranger to you yet she somehow still has this hold on you - likes a kicked puppy going back to its master for more. I know it is not at all as simple as just forgetting about her but please, please try to see that you owe her absolutely nothing. The adults in your family saw her for what she was and want nothing to do with her. Trust their judgement. She has let you down in the worst way but refuses to own it; you say all her pissed up phonecalls are about her sorry life, etc. She is a dreadful woman and doesn't deserve your compassion or even fleeting thoughts. It isn't your job to let her know that your grandfather has died. She didn't want to know when he was ill and didn't want to stay in touch so what's changed now? I think just leave it, otherwise there will always be something we expects you to get in touch about. And you don't want to fall into the role of the one who is somehow responsible for keeping her in the loop about stuff.
I'm so sorry for what this woman has pit you through and hope you realise you have a lot to be proud of.

Figamol · 24/11/2019 09:04

Wow - this is insane. I dont know why you're embarrassed - if anything you can hold your head up higher than most people for surviving this.

Did your father have a Doctor who could call her - of ask the funeral home to call her. I'm sure they're used to dealing with 'no family links' situations.

AtrociousCircumstance · 24/11/2019 09:06

You do NOT have to tell her. You never, ever have to contact her again for the entirety of your life. You will never have to care for her in her old age - that is not your responsibility.

I don’t know how your life is now but in your posts you come across as an intelligent, compassionate, measured person who has her head screwed on. After all you have been through, I can only marvel at the resilience of the human spirit.

I am deeply moved by your posts - please take care of yourself and honour the knowledge that you have zero responsibility for this person.

Flowers
NearlyGranny · 24/11/2019 09:07

As many an OP has said:

"I've been no-contact with her for ages and have no idea where she now is. If you know where she is, let her know yourself. I can't help."

Howlovely · 24/11/2019 09:07

Gosh so many typos, I hope it makes sense.

saraclara · 24/11/2019 09:08

As someone else said, if someone told you, they could tell your mother with as much ease as you could. And they have the same responsibility to tell your mother (ie. none).

That. It's about time someone else stepped up. They don't want to? Tough. Neither do you. And no-one else will have to have the fallout that you will, so they should protect you for once.

Either that, or you don't tell her either. She'll either find out one day, or she won't. Makes no odds.

And don't you dare take care of her when she's old. You owe her nothing. Your own family is what counts. Don't dream of disrupting their lives by involving your mum in yours.

lilgreen · 24/11/2019 09:09

You owe her nothing. If you don’t have her address, how can you contact her? Tell the information giver to contact her.

Chloemol · 24/11/2019 09:09

If you don’t have her address how will you contact her? If by phone give whoever is telling you the number and they could do it. If you have no contact details you can’t tell her simple as that

thecatfromjapan · 24/11/2019 09:10

Counselling.

It's actually a bit of a shock when the psychological structures you've built (with the collusion of others) start to crack.

It's something that a good counsellor can help with.

oldstripeyNEWname1 · 24/11/2019 09:10

Yesterday I learnt a new phrase from a friend that apparently is common in Poland. 'If you have a soft heart, you need to have a hard bottom'

... because life will kick you in the bum. It doesn't mean you have to be hard hearted, something you're not. But it does seem apt for this situation. Keep doing what you're doing, and you'll get what you have always got. That is not victim blaming you. Whilst you cannot change the behaviour of others, you can control your own to limit the impact of their behaviour on you. People make their own choices.

Tbh, seems like they've done enough damage to you. Devote your energy to the future, yourself and being the best parent to your child they weren't to you.

Perunatop · 24/11/2019 09:10

You sound remarkably resilient given all the circumstances. Perhaps just send a polite but formal and factual message, with the Funeral Director's details. You will then know that you have done the 'right thing' and will not need to feel guilty in any way, and can move on in your own life.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 24/11/2019 09:11

Your incubator is an abusive cunt. ThecatfromJapan has pretty much nailed it. Find a third party to tell her and cut all ties before she pushes the buttons she managed to install in you before she rejected you otherwise you'll end up caring for her whilst she bleeds you dry physically, emotionally and financially. This is not you being cruel and neglectful; this is you giving her her due.

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