To wonder why people don't vote Green?

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Given that climate change is such a pressing issue, and lots of us are remainers i am amazed that more don't vote Green.
Someone i know said it was their overly pro trans stance but to me this is nothing compared to the threat of rising sea waters or desertification etc.
What am i missing?

I do sometimes vote Green. I was planning to vote SNP in the coming election, but the Greens latest climate goal may have swayed me back to them.

FPTP.

Also, Labour offer an excellent green policy and Remain is on the table for them, too by offering a People's Vote.

My advice is if you priorities environmental issues vote Green.

It is supporters of other political parties that say "Don't vote Green they will never get in"

If you actually vote Green they have a chance, if you let other people put you off, they will go nowhere.

I often vote Green as a protest vote because I think they won't get in but it shows my interest in the environment.

I won't vote for them because there is no candidate in my area.

That just shows how stupid they are. How can they expect to win if they don't bother putting a candidate in every area? I doubt my area is the only one.

I can't vote for them even if I wanted to because they don't have a candidate in my constituency.

The borrowing.

The lack of any policies other than environmental ones.

The misogynism.

But even if they did have a candidate in my area I wouldn't touch them because of their man and non-man nonsense.

Around our city, the Greens are so extreme, they barely ever get any votes. If they were more realistic with their plans/policies, I think they'd be very popular. Eg, we have poor public transport (North west English town), so lots of people have no choice but use the car to get to work/school/shopping etc. The local Green party stand on a policy of making our entire town centre entirely car free by 2025 - pedestrianise it all, including the areas around the shops, schools, hospital, etc. Even if they had the money, there's no way that any usable form of public transport system could be in place by 2025, so the policy is completely unworkable, hence alienated basically everyone in the area with a car. If they'd had any sense, they'd have stood on a policy of more realistic aims, such as improving public transport, maybe a "car free" town by 2050 (more achievable). But no, they just keep shooting themselves in the foot by being too extreme.

If they don't even know what a woman is; if they're happy to have violent paedophiles as election agents and then cover it up afterwards - how likely do you think it is they have the wherewithall to prevent or manage catastrophic climate change?!!!!!!

Sincerely, an ex-Green.

I'm anti-Tory so my vote has to be labour from a tactical point.
Although looks like itll be a Tory victory again. Who are all the jokers that vote for them? I don't know any!

When the whole Challenor situation of rape and torture of a ten year old child came to the public's attention, they kept Challenor and sacked the chap who raised concerns (Andy Healy?). I'm not sure how any 'non-men' could consider voting for them - they're nuts.

Because they have no policies that will actually tackle climate change, being anti nuclear, saying they will reduce carbon to 0 by 2050 or whenever is just a headline policy with no actual facts to back it up, nor is it achievable.

Plus to top it off, they undermine the whole 'climate' situation by openly offering open borders.

I do vote green occasionally as I am an environmentalist and I like a lot of their policies.
But I won't this time, even though I have a good candidate who I know personally, because I need to help get my tory MP out.
And I'm deeply uncomfortable about their position on womens rights, but that goes for every party, so meh.

The jumpers.

Nah seriously the non-male thing annoyed me. I have voted green in SP elections but I disagree with them on some (to me) highly
Important issues and I’m not sure I would vote for them again.

Aside from the women's rights issues they have not put up a candidate in my area as part of the libdem-green pact so I couldn't vote for them even if I wanted to. I used to vote for them before women became 'non men'.

I do like the greens but for me it's about keeping/getting the Tories out, so I'll be voting for my local Labour MP who is fantastic, and a vocal Remainer.

In the 2015 election they put a schoolchild up for election in my area: yes, he'd just turned 18 but do they really expect people to vote for someone still at school?

When they called women non-men, I questioned one of the Greens defending it, and was told it was to be inclusive. I then asked why we couldn't have women and non-women as that's surely equally inclusive. Blocked. They just don't want my vote it seems 🤷‍♀️

I'm not a non man I'm a woman.

In the Westminster elections it would just be a wasted vote.

I have voted for them in the past in the Scottish Parliament elections but never will again because of their stance on women.

(I also like my car!)

I might have considered voting for them until I discovered that I'm a 'non man' in their eyes. Can't really think of anything more insulting.

Can you explain what you mean by ‘undermine by having open borders’, Justathought? Climates don’t have borders, surely?

I have voted green once but as others have said only because I knew they wouldn't get in and so it was a safe way to signal my concern about climate.
The main reason I could never vote for them seriously is because they don't seem to understand that a successful response to the climate crisis will involve gathering assent to really difficult choices from the greatest number of people (broad coalitions). With their policies around women and faith communities there is no way they can do that. Blundering on with your own radical agenda in a climate crisis will lead to the kind of divisions will make it impossible to act (I think).

I think because for many it seems like a pointless vote and because they come across as only having one angle - their stance on the environment is pretty clear and obvious but there’s more to being in government than caring about the environment. People want more than that when voting for someone.

Oops, sorry, I meant Justanotherlurker.

The zero net carbon by 2050 is a Conservative promise: www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-theresa-may-we-will-end-uk-contribution-to-climate-change-by-2050.

Maybe it's Greens as well, I don't know.

Are people being deliberately stupid? They obviously didn't mean that women = non-men. They meant that both women and people who don't identify as men were welcome at the group in question.

I am Green at heart, but don't always vote for them, partly because I've vote swapped before, and partly because this time I think it's important to vote Labour even though I'm in a safe Labour seat, to contribute to their share of the national vote and show my antipathy to the Tories.