To think it's time the Queen passed the throne to Charles?

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Given recent events concerning Prince Andrew, and the ensuing scandal, is it time for Charles to take over as King now? The Queen has been dedicated all her life to her civil duties, and continues to perform them well, but as she and the DOE are getting older, it appears her/their ability to control situations with some of the other members of the royal family is waning.

It could be argued that both Harry and Meghan and now Prince Andrew seem to be ignoring advice, unwisely sharing their grievances with the media and striking out on their own with the inevitable backlash (I am referring to interviews, not libel actions). Anecdotally, more and more people are saying it's time to get rid of the royal institution.

If Charles were to become King, it is probable that he would streamline the RF to just William and his heirs and make some needed adjustments, such a move might renew interest in the RF, increase their popularity and ensure their continuance as Charles is more in touch with the mood of the nation.

Also just read this provocative Daily Mail article,

Headline: 'The Queen 'backs' Prince Andrew and 'believes him 100 per cent'

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7698021/Queen-goes-horse-ride-Windsor-Castle-grounds-days-Prince-Andrews-car-crash-interview.html

Do think something has to change.

If every country pulled out of the Commonwealth tomorrow, that would only leave the UK, and the Monarchy would not be viable or accepted politically/logistically as purely for England/UK. It would thus be disbanded.

Erm, no.

I think you need to get back to the books.

The entire establishment is corrupt and full of pedophiles, irrelevant of who is on the throne. Until the general public wakes up it will not change.

“The commonwealth is the reason for the monarchy’s being”?

England has been united under a single monarch since 1066

England & Wales since 1283

England, Scotland & Wales since 1601

The commonwealth was formed in 1931

The monarchy predates the commonwealth by centuries

Some commonwealth countries (Australia, Canada, I think some Carribbean countries) have The Queen as Head of State. Others (India, Pakistan, most others) are republics. They don't have the Queen as Head of State.Before that, they were part of the British Empire.

Agree with others. The Head of the Commonwealth is completely different from the monarch. Monarchy is hereditary. The only change in the hereditary rule has been to allow girls to inherit over boys. The Commonwealth is a group of countries, formerly Empire, who mainly now are self governing.They elect their head. They could have rejected Charles and he'd still be King of the IK and the non republic members of the Commonwealth.

King of GB that should have said

Bugger no I meant UK after all

Luca is spot on.

The queen is the only reason most people even tolerate the royal family. Honestly they’re not respected or even really liked anymore. They’re like a bad habit we have got into as a country. When the queen passes away it’s all over for them I think (hope)

You don't get 4 units shy of a degree in History without learning something...

Looks like you do.

I did find it strange that Charles was voted to be next leader of the commonwealth. I didn't understand there to be so much good will among the commonwealth countries to him

You'd be surprised. Australia voted to stay a monarchy, and last time Charles a Camilla visited they were mobbed by well wishers.

You'd be surprised. Australia voted to stay a monarchy, and last time Charles a Camilla visited they were mobbed by well wishers.

I think that's because ultimately they represent a link to the past with it's accompanying sense of nationalism, patriotism, group identity etc.

The Commonwealth role with its group identity among those countrirs in which the British Sovereign remains as Head of State is surely a big argument to keep them.

I remember watching a film of part of the meeting where Charles was elected next leader of the Commonwealth, and Her Maj almost begged them to elect him, saying that it was so personally important to her etc etc.

She was determined to have Charles elected, because it all helps legitimise the position of the monarchy, which she holds by public acclaim.

Anyone past Prince Louis will never be on the throne

Never say never, the entire Cambridge family were booked to travel on that helicopter that crashed, a week after the crash.

My view is that the Queen is one of the only reasons why the uk public in the main support the royals. Once, she's gone, I think public support will diminish. I don't think Charles will be an especially popular king. William will do better and be more popular thanks in part to Kate who performs her role impeccably.

Australia voted to keep the queen because the proposed model for a republic was flawed, not because of love for the monarchy!

Not to be a doomsayer, but the Cambridges keep travelling together which I don't understand. I really wish they wouldn't.

The Cambridge’s will likely stop travelling together once Charles is King

Though Diana and William travelled with Charles when technically they should never have travelled together

I really wish they wouldn't

Why does it matter to you? I find it bizarre.

Whatever happens, there are plenty of heirs right now and the crown will always go to the next available person in the list. While it is always sad when people die, losing the Cambridges wouldn't make a blind bit of difference to any of us.

she’s a religious woman who believes that she was born to be Queen

she wasn't born to be queen, she was born to be a minor cousin to whoever was on the throne.

Why does it matter to you? I find it bizarre.

Because @ReceptacleForTheRespectable if anything happened to all the Cambridges it'd mean Queen Meghan!

And?

And some posters on Mumsnet would spontaneously combust if that happened!

The Cambridges consist of a man who it seems pretty certain has cheated in his wife, and a woman who has never had a proper job. What makes them better than Harry and Meghan? They're not fucking saints.

Which is why the monarchy is a crock of shit. We will end up with whoever is next in line whatever happens.

We have no choice. It doesn't matter whether they're a Nazi (Edward), an adulterer, a bigot, thick as pigshit, or a total saint. We can't vote out a bad one and put our preferred Royal in place instead, we just have to suck it up and fund them from our taxes.