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to be outraged by Nativity casting as 'Innkeeper's wife'!!!

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PIPERHELLO · 15/11/2019 09:26

Daughter (6) has been cast as 'someone's wife' in the Nativity play at school. 'Innkeeper's wife' to be precise.

Err...hello!?

This is fucking not OK! In 2019, to be identified as 'someone's wife'.

Normally I am pretty relaxed about all things school, and I certainly feel sorry for he teachers' workloads, but come on people!? This is 2019 - no woman should be identified by her relationship to a man!? SURELY!

Itching to call them out on this. Itching!

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BertrandRussell · 16/11/2019 17:30

Why do people feel it’s OK to be so rude in threads like this? Really, if you want to be insulted, say something vaguely feminist on Mumsnet!

TheCherries · 16/11/2019 17:31

This made me laugh out loud. Are we not allowed to be someone’s wife, someone’s husband?

My husband who is the biggest pain in the arse about being known as himself and putting his name first in everything including our wedding invites (which traditionally is female first) doesn’t flinch at being known as the husband of the woman who does my line of work when out and about.

This is surely an issue that she isn’t Mary. If it isn’t then you would likely have a beef about her being chosen to be the one who has to have a baby. What role do you want her to have? Do we need to rewrite the nativity story?

Yetanotherwinter · 16/11/2019 17:32

Poor little offended snowflake. Get a grip for goodness sake!

nuxe1984 · 16/11/2019 17:33

I don't think the innkeeper has a name so she can't be referred to as "Mrs XXX" can she? At least she's not a palm tree ….

Alsohuman · 16/11/2019 17:33

If this is the current version of feminism, count me out. My feminist credentials go back to 1972, incidentally.

BertrandRussell · 16/11/2019 17:34

Feminists have always challenged sexist language.

Honeyroar · 16/11/2019 17:38

To be fair BetrandRussell, I think I've been insulted on Mumsnet a few times by ardent feminists because I've mentioned something my husband says or thinks, instead of saying it as what I think. It's not good either way, I'm just saying some of the feminists on here are the most attacking. I avoid the feminist posts in general because of it.

flowery · 16/11/2019 17:38

”From a EYFS teacher about to cast a nativity play - get a bloody grip woman these kids are four years old at the oldest seven !! It’s meant to be fun.”

Why do you think giving the part of the Innkeeper to a girl, or at least giving the character a name other than “Innkeepers Wife”, will make the play no longer “fun”?

Stereotyping hurts the girls in your care, but making a tiny change to avoid that, which takes no work at all, is something you feel the need to berate the OP for suggesting, and feel would detract from the “fun”?

Women have had the vote for 100 years, discrimination on the basis of sex has been unlawful for decades, but in terms of societal norms and attitudes, including in those responsible for educating our children (therefore having huge influence), we’ve apparently still got light years to go, haven’t we?

saraclara · 16/11/2019 17:39

As someone else has said, you're blaming the wrong person. Confronting a frazzled teacher over this at the busiest and most frantic time of their year, is unfair.

If you really want to make a difference, find out the writer or publisher of the script and contact them.

NotTonightJosepheen · 16/11/2019 17:40

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Paddington68 · 16/11/2019 17:43

Why not mention it to the teacher, when you are next in volunteering.

JusticeForSandra · 16/11/2019 17:43

Of course people "get it". They just have a very different opinion on the subject Grin

SomeonesRealName · 16/11/2019 17:46

@Happyspud and OP I totally agree.

Alsohuman · 16/11/2019 17:48

Feminists have always challenged sexist language.

Yes, they have. Since when has “wife” been sexist?

Shell4429 · 16/11/2019 17:49

Things have changed but you can’t airbrush history and apply retrospective values to it.

mumwon · 16/11/2019 17:54

Knowing the way dc are when they grow to adolescence & beyond if op pushes to hard - dc will reject everything op stands for & probably become a submissive wife :) ( I will tell dh like me - when he finishes cooking dinner!)

Supermum29 · 16/11/2019 18:03

This is a joke right!?

Lou898 · 16/11/2019 18:05

Are you for real??? Do you seriously think that this is worth a complaint to school about?? Do you not think this is a massive overreaction. These are standard parts in a nativity. The name of the inn keepers wife is an unknown and that is how the person is referred to. Just be thankful she’s not an “ass”.
If everyone was so petty there could be issues with loads of parts in the nativity. Just enjoy seeing your little one take part and don’t trouble school as they have enough real issues to deal with.

JavaQ · 16/11/2019 18:05

"someone's husband".....is that listed in the cast list?

I doubt it

MollyButton · 16/11/2019 18:08

Just saying "Inn Keepers Wife" was one of the best parts I had in a nativity play the Inn Keeper was terribly shy so I got all the lines.
Now the children who were cast as "Door" might have given their parents a cause to complain.

nannygoat50 · 16/11/2019 18:17

Get a life and worry about something important!!!!!

Rtruth · 16/11/2019 18:25

Love people who get offended and then think “hmmm I need everyone to know I’m offended and in a social society, even if I’m minority, I must make a scene!”

Efrogwraig · 16/11/2019 18:28

One nativity l did as a teacher was almost renamed The Innkeeper's Wife as the girl in question was fab & kept saying the innkeeper's lines before he could!

cazkieran · 16/11/2019 18:34

Since when is it a bad thing to be a wife? I’m proud to be my husband wife, that’s what I am!!!! Just because I am a wife doesn’t mean that is all I am.
As for all the posts saying it was set years ago, if it was a modern re-write then it’s wrong..... no it’s not- wives still exist.
Think yourself lucky your child’s school is doing a nativity, none of my children have experienced it because the schools won’t do it anymore- too scared of offending people probably. It’s very sad.

BertrandRussell · 16/11/2019 18:36

“ Since when is it a bad thing to be a wife? ”

Since never. Which is why nobody has said it is.

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