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to be outraged by Nativity casting as 'Innkeeper's wife'!!!

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PIPERHELLO · 15/11/2019 09:26

Daughter (6) has been cast as 'someone's wife' in the Nativity play at school. 'Innkeeper's wife' to be precise.

Err...hello!?

This is fucking not OK! In 2019, to be identified as 'someone's wife'.

Normally I am pretty relaxed about all things school, and I certainly feel sorry for he teachers' workloads, but come on people!? This is 2019 - no woman should be identified by her relationship to a man!? SURELY!

Itching to call them out on this. Itching!

OP posts:
Mrsjayy · 15/11/2019 11:27

Soo Sandra now works as the premier Inn receptionist?

Lunafortheloveogod · 15/11/2019 11:28

I wonder what you’d call a woman who is married to the innkeeper if you didn’t known either of their names.. at this rate it’ll be fucking Voldemort.

At least she wasn’t cast as camel 2’s back end... yes I was an arse.

Mydarlingadrian · 15/11/2019 11:29

I’m with you OP, how about just innkeepers...

soloula · 15/11/2019 11:31

But innkeepers did, and still do have wives!

Yes but why is it not innkeeper and innkeepers husband? It's semantics but word choice does matter. Casual sexism shouldn't go unchecked.

And when you're allocating roles like the Christmas fox, the lamppost or whatever brilliantly creative roles teachers come up with to accommodate the number of kids taking part then why stick with tradition? Just because something has always been done one way doesn't necessarily mean it's still the right way?

I wouldn't be raising it with the school just now as roles have been allocated, by why not a wee bit of feedback questioning it for next year?

BertrandRussell · 15/11/2019 11:32

“I wonder what you’d call a woman who is married to the innkeeper if you didn’t known either of their names..”
Presumably the innkeeper’s wife. What’s your point?

Nanny0gg · 15/11/2019 11:32

I do remember one nativity where the Innkeeper's wife was clearly in charge and stereotypically bossy (making the Innkeeper do all the sweeping and getting the stable ready)

Is that any better?

PuppyMonkey · 15/11/2019 11:34

Well, I’m another one who would be Hmm about this too so ner ner.

Given the nativity is all a made up load of bollocks anyway, it wouldn’t particularly detract from the message to rewrite the cast list and name her Sandra (or the Bethlehem 2000 Years Ago equivalent).

BertrandRussell · 15/11/2019 11:35

“ I do remember one nativity where the Innkeeper's wife was clearly in charge and stereotypically bossy (making the Innkeeper do all the sweeping and getting the stable ready)

Is that any better?”

No.

soloula · 15/11/2019 11:35

I wonder what you’d call a woman who is married to the innkeeper if you didn’t known either of their names..

Innkeeper's wife. But we don't know the innkeepers name either yet he gets to be innkeeper. Why should a woman be defined by her relationship with a man yet he just to just be 'the man'. It's 2019 ffs.

LinnetBird · 15/11/2019 11:36

What a pile of Little donkey poo.

BinkyBaa · 15/11/2019 11:36

Yanbu, the innkeeper is a crap role, I'd imagine the innkeepers wife is even less exciting.

AnyOldPrion · 15/11/2019 11:36

I wouldn't be raising it with the school just now as roles have been allocated, by why not a wee bit of feedback questioning it for next year?

I wouldn’t either, but I might have a quiet word at some point.

Was thinking about a similar post where your son had the part of innkeeper’s husband. Suspect lots would see the sexism then.

Thestrangestthing · 15/11/2019 11:37

This is 2019, Jesus's birth was quite some time ago. We don't have to rewrite history to bring everything up to date.

myolivetree · 15/11/2019 11:37

oh dear, do you not have anything important to think about? Yo cannot relate an ancient legend to today, or are you one of these who wants to rewrite history?

Oh dear did you not realise the whole thing has not been rewritten. Endlessly.

Hence the foxes, elephants, Brussels sprouts, etc etc mentioned on here?

ballsdeep · 15/11/2019 11:38

Oh ffs get a grip.

Hearhoovesthinkzebras · 15/11/2019 11:39

Op (et al) if you're so outraged at, as you perceive it, this further incidence of everyday feminism wouldn't it be better to use it as the opportunity to discuss it with your dd rather than just try to erase centuries of misogyny by air brushing this out?

Why not say is it right that she was only known as the inn keeper's wife and not as a person in her own right and how much things have changed now etc etc rather than pretending that it didn't happen by giving her a name or making her co owner?

ballsdeep · 15/11/2019 11:39

She could have been cast as the plug socket like the sainsbury advert last year.
Really op, give your head a wobble and get yourself sorted

Bluntness100 · 15/11/2019 11:40

Lol. Op you do understand don't you that the play is replicating the time period, it's not been modernised. 🤣🤣🤣

Thestrangestthing · 15/11/2019 11:40

Perhaps the wife in the nativity story wasn't an innkeeper, perhaps she took nothing to do with the innkeeping business, therefore she wouldn't be called an innkeeper.

timeisnotaline · 15/11/2019 11:40

+Have we all just assumed the innkeeper is heterosexual? wink.*
I think it’s more than an assumption. Had the innkeepers partner been same sex they’d probably have been stoned to death much earlier in the piece. What fun.
Why arent people making more concrete suggestions like the op should check how many female authors or characters are in the reading books? Things you could legitimately comment on to the school! Unless I missed those.

Pukkatea · 15/11/2019 11:40

oh dear, do you not have anything important to think about? Yo cannot relate an ancient legend to today

Eh? This is literally all that religions do.

Birdshitbridgegotme · 15/11/2019 11:40

Grinthis is hilarious. Has to be a joke surely?

saraclara · 15/11/2019 11:41

My daughter was Joseph in her playgroup nativity play. That was nearly three decades ago.
The children were told the story, asked which character they'd like to be, and my daughter was adamant that she wanted to be Joseph. So she was.

It wasn't a remotely trendy, right on, or middle class playgroup. But the play leaders just thought 'why not?'.

oreomum · 15/11/2019 11:44

My dd was a wise man - should I be angry that they assumed that she identified as a man? 😂

My Ds was a shepherd and they drew facial hair on him. Should I be angry?

BertrandRussell · 15/11/2019 11:45

“ Op you do understand don't you that the play is replicating the time period, it's not been modernised.”

Interesting. Not modernised at all? Grin

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