Back Boris, say senior Labour MPs

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Labour voters, what do you think of this??

"We should all get behind the Tories to save this country
IAN AUSTIN

7 NOVEMBER 2019 • 9:26PM

I am worried that if Boris Johnson does not get a majority, Corbyn will get into No 10

Being a Member of Parliament is a huge privilege, but representing the place you are from and the people that you grew up with is the greatest honour of all. I love Dudley, and will never be able to thank local people enough for giving me what I think has been the best job in the world.

Leaving the Labour Party in February was a huge wrench, and I could never have dreamt I’d be telling people to vote Conservative – but I always tell local people the truth, and could never ask them to make Jeremy Corbyn prime minister.

I was taught important values growing up in Dudley. Fairness and playing by the rules. What’s right and what’s wrong. Basic decent British values.

My dad was a Jewish refugee from the Holocaust. His mum and sisters were murdered by the Nazis. He taught me always to stand up to racism and prejudice. I have done that all my life, and I could not stand by as the Labour Party has been poisoned by racism, extremism and intolerance under Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership.

I am appalled and ashamed that a party that has had such a proud tradition of fighting racism has caused huge offence and distress to the Jewish community. I regard myself as proper, decent, traditional Labour – but I think he is completely unfit to lead our country.

He and people like John McDonnell have spent decades working with and supporting all sorts of extremists, and in some cases terrorists. They can’t be trusted with our defence or security and would undermine our democratic institutions. I do not believe Jeremy Corbyn loves this country.

He and the people around him always seem to back our country’s enemies – whether that’s the IRA when they were murdering people in shopping centres, hotels and pubs, terrorist groups like Hamas and Hizbollah, or even parroting Putin’s propaganda when he tried to murder people here in Britain.

Finally, I think their economic plans would put businesses, investment and jobs at risk and it is impossible to take their Brexit policy seriously. It is a fantasy to think Jeremy Corbyn could negotiate a good deal.

Until this year, I have only ever voted Labour, so it has really come to something when someone like me says traditional decent patriotic Labour voters should vote for Boris Johnson and the Conservative Party this time. This has been a very difficult decision to take. There are good people and lifelong friends of mine in the Labour Party, but the truth is that only one of two people can be prime minister on December 13.

In the end, either Jeremy Corbyn or Boris Johnson will walk into Downing Street. That is the choice we have to face up to and I am worried that if Boris Johnson does not get a majority, Corbyn will get into No 10.

And if I can face up to this question, then surely Nigel Farage should swallow his pride and get behind the Prime Minister, too?

Voting for anyone else is just too big a risk. That is why I think traditional Labour voters like me must lend the Tories our votes at this election and stop Jeremy Corbyn getting anywhere near Downing Street."

Ian Austin was MP for Dudley North, 2005-2018

I was taught important values growing up in Dudley. Fairness and playing by the rules. What’s right and what’s wrong. Basic decent British values

If he thinks Boris and his band of Tories subscribe to any of the above, then he's a fool.

What do I think of this? is exactly my feelings. I wont deny the issues within the Labour Party, but the same as I can't deny the blatant, unchallenged racism and xenophobia that makes up the Tories. We have a current Prime Minister who has described women in Burkas as 'letter boxes', a previous Tory PM who sent vans around our country telling immigrants to 'go home', never mind the Windrush scandal and allowing Grenfell to happen. That type of racism is a-ok though, as long as the country gets pushed through a no deal Brexit I assume.

This isn't about JC or BJ for me. My local MP is Labour and as far as I'm concerned does a great job. That's the only thing I'm keeping in mind in this shambles.

He isn't a senior MP. He left the LP a while back.

We have a very good local Labour MP and I think that she serves her constituency well so I will be voting for her. When it comes down to it - that's what's important to me. I don't need lecturing from a politician on who to vote for.

Sour grapes from someone with very poor judgement if they think it's a good idea for Boris to be in power.

my parents live in Dudley North I believe he is a good constituency MP
I think a lot of working class CDE voters may vote Tory / brexit party as they feel the current labour party doesn't listen to them or represent them but just lectures them like they are idiots.
Incidentally Dudley North is very pro brexit

No point asking the question OP. The response will depend on the tribe. Labour supporters will cry sour grapes and betrayal that one of their own must be a closet tory to dare suggest their supreme leader is anything other than the Messiah and that the tories are anything less than evil child snatching murders.

The tory supporting tribe will agree and say that 'there you go, we told you JC was a terrorist anti Semite who hates Britain, even one of your own is saying it!'

The reality OP in my book is that such an opinion from a long serving MP from a Jewish background should be taken into account and listened to. Maybe not agreed with, but certainly considered when deciding who to vote for.

What do Labour lecture people on specifically? Obviously they have policies but then so does every party.

I do think it's ridiculous. Also, your user name is misleading and implies it's more than one MP.

While I agree with pp who said it should be taken into account, similarly senior Jewish politicians such as John Bercow don't believe that Corbyn is anti semitic.

While I don't believe anti semitism within the Labour Party has always been handled correctly (although better then accusations of anti Iam from withing the Conservative party) I absolutely do not think that Jeremy Corbyn is, or supports anti semitism.

He's not a Labour MP, OP.

Do check the basic facts. It's so important.

God forbid you should come over like a fucking numpty.

Everanewbie - I'm not blind to Corbyn's shortcomings but the Labour party is bigger than who is in charge. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am Jewish and I don't think that Corbyn himself is antisemitic or that Labour is an antisemitic party although there is an issue with people who support the party who clearly do have antisemitic opinions (as opposed to legitimate critical opinion of Israeli government policy). Anyone with any kind of racist or antisemitic opinions is deeply ignorant. Anyone has the right to an opinion on the antisemitism issue though, Jewish or not. Just because I am Jewish, that doesn't make me some kind of expert or that my opinion is more or less important than others.

I am so torn on this. I wish JC had stood down as the head of the Labour Party and there was a more credible to vote for PM. I would not hesitate to vote for labour if this was the case. I think they could win easily if they had a different leader.

I agree with him that JC doesn't seem a credible PM and I can't see him getting us a better Brexit deal. I also agree with the hypocrisy JC displays, saying he's standing for the working class, against the elite etc when he's a bloody multi-millionaire with more than one house. That many of those working classes probably don't think Labour or the conservatives represent them.

But I disagree with much of what he says too. I don't see labour as a racist party themselves just individuals within it. The conservatives are also racist. In my mind the conservatives definitely do not represent right from wrong or morals. I think they are looking after themselves and don't care about what's right for the country or the people. Plus, terrible events have been allowed to happen under many governments. At least they hasn't taken us to war.

Yeah but he is nit a labour MP

Misleading title

Nope, Ian Austin playing the racist card after years of espousing anti immigrant rhetoric doesn't cut it for me. Nice try though.

Jente that is just ridiculous. The racist card? He expresses a disgust in the way labour has handled accusations of antisemitism, often from its own MPs and members, and you say he played the race card?

Acknowledging that people have concerns amount immigration and suggested the labour party not simply write off this concern as racism, is not racism.

he's a bloody multi-millionaire with more than one house

He'll probably be a millionaire on paper because he bought a house in London many years ago when prices were affordable. That's not unusual at all for older generations in London.

I'm not aware that he has a second home. Do you have any facts to back that up?

Sorry, forgot to tag @mummyrocks1

I've found the article where the multi millionaire claim comes from, and it's nonsensical.

www.spearswms.com/jeremy-corbyn-net-worth/

"Over the years, his £4,500 salary rose to £8,000, then to £15,000. As of this year Corbyn is now earning £137,000 as his salary. He is famous for living a simple life. As he claims the position as MP, and Labour leader £74,962 and £62,440 goes into his account yearly. Together this makes over £137,000. Over 30 years, he has claimed over £3 million from the state alone. This is £1.5 million more than a normal MP. Once he retires, he’s set to earn £1.6 million pension."

It includes his earnings for thirty years, and his pension pot. On that basis, any middle manager nearing retirement would be a millionaire. How do people fall for this stuff?

So does JC have to live in squalor in order to justify his political beliefs?
Not all conservative voters live in listed manor houses with servants, yet somehow (and inexplicably) vote conservative in the mistaken belief that they represent their interests.

He'll probably be a millionaire on paper because he bought a house in London many years ago when prices were affordable. That's not unusual at all for older generations in London.

And that’s exactly the kind of person Labour’s spiteful property and asset taxes want to target, so why are you making excuses for him?

www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/fifty-times-jeremy-corbyn-stood-with-jewish-people/

There have been so many anti Corbyn threads on here, it pleases me. It means his rivals are getting scared.
No one is starting anti BJ threads as they know exactly what ordinary people think of him - a chaotic, ineffectual, racist elitist.

Agree with Mistelwoe this is political trolling. I find political debate interesting but I cannot stand these disingenuous threads, with misleading titles, which are simply aimed at spreading misinformation.

I’m not a Labour voter or Corbyn supporter by the way. Just sick of the crude and blatant anti-Corbyn spam being thrown around Mumsnet at the moment.

I agree with you both (June/Mistlewoe), the funeral advert post was in particularly poor taste. The constant lies and manipulation of the truth or the downright laziness and refusal to do any research into the truth before posting something as fact, its really getting me down. I shall choose to interpret it as you describe, fear and panic! I've also decided to stop posting on threads so they quickly drop off the activity list.