To think fireworks should not be for sale to the general public

[lastqueenofscotland]

Maybe I just live in a crap area where kids let them off in the street and throw them at people. But people buying them and using them like utter cretins seems to be on the rise.
Aibu to think they should be for organised displays only?

the moaning dog owners can go and take a running jump.

Can’t think for a moment why someone might run a “hate campaign” against you.

YABU.

Agreed, MyKingdomForBrie- my heart sinks just reading about a release in the papers, never mind seeing one of the bloody things coming over the horizon

For the brainless on this thread spouting about their traditions being taken away - ITS ONLY A CAMPAIGN TO BAN THE SAKE TO THE PUBLIC. YOUR ORGANISED DISPLAYS WILL BE UNAFFECTED!!!

Organised displays would still span a week so pet and livestock owners still have to suffer the effects but it would help keep the distress to a minimum and free up the emergency services to deal with normal emergencies.

We are looking forward to ours this year so all the moaners, including the moaning dog owners, can go and take a running jump.

Let's hope a big rocket doesn't explode in your face. Take care now.

Karma.

YANBU.

Nobody “needs” a firework display.

The repercussions aren’t worth the alleged enjoyment.

In the last few years there have been ongoing hate campaigns conducted against people who take part in this traditional activity

Arf at “hate campaign”. Hyperbole is a gift isn’t it?

But that's not how legislation works. We don't have a cost benefit analysis of all our freedoms.

YANBU. Then my idiot ex-neighbour won’t be able to set fire to the fence each year...

YANBU, I remember phoning the police once as a local shop where I lived in Zone 1 was selling them the teenagers who were letting them off directed at people and traffic. We live in quite a built up area with plenty of displays and yet this morning I've woken up with a garden filled with spent fireworks and my car had a few on top as well.

Something should definitely be done to restrict sales a lot, maybe only sell them on Nov 4th and 5th then New Year. Definitely not for weeks beforehand.

A German Shepherd local to me was being walked yesterday down the dene, a firework went off in broad daylight and spooked the dog and it ran out and was very sadly run over and killed. There's absolutely no reason to be setting off fireworks during the day!

So, to say people don't "need" to have them in their garden is wrong.

No it's really not wrong. It's still not a "need" fgs.

What about all the dogs in the houses near the fireworks display? The other animals and wildlife?

I don’t think they should be banned. It not fair to everyone else. I have a dog, he’s not scared of fireworks but I understand some are. But as soon as you ban fireworks it’s no longer going to be a few quid to go and watch them at a display, it will be the only place you can see them and they event will stick the price up. Not everyone can afford to go to these things, let alone want to stand in the cold and wet watching them, if we can do it watching from the patio doors in the garden then that’s what we’ll do.

Albeit I go to displays but would love to have them at home... I would however go round to the neighbours who I know have dogs first and ask how they respond to them as even if my dog doesn’t care I wouldn’t want to make other dogs scared if I can help it. Doesn’t mean everyone else has to suffer though.

Why does everything have to be banned? The big organised displays may also frighten wildlife and farm animals so that isn't a good argument.

I think the suggestion that they can only be purchased 2 days in advance of bonfire night or New year's Eve is a good one.

Why does everything have to be banned? The big organised displays may also frighten wildlife and farm animals so that isn't a good argument

It is easier to organise a frightened animal if you know what nights/times the display is going to be on.

As an aside organised displays don’t have to be loud. Our two local made a commitment this year to only use fireworks with a zero noise rating.

Nobody "needs" fireworks or fireworks displays. I agree they should be limited to public events where licensed professionals are in charge of setting then off. They should not be available to buy to every knobhead who wanders past a Tesco.

So now all the firework displays are to be silent? And when it's all finished does everyone trade in clapping for the snowflake jazz hands?

I'd like to see them in organised displays only. Yesterday a dog was scared by the fireworks and got away from her owner, unfortunately shes been found but shes died :-(

My local council paid for a display. While that was happening groups of youths let fire works off into the crowds and then pushed over the portaloos, a good night for the public ruined by the few.

So now all the firework displays are to be silent? And when it's all finished does everyone trade in clapping for the snowflake jazz hands?

Yawn. I live semi-rurally. It was decided due to the issues with local livestock.

I mean yeah, considering people’s livelihoods is really snowflake territory.

How about making that hand clap a slow one 🙄

Why does everything have to be banned?

Hyperbole much? What else has been banned that makes people so defensive of fireworks?

Wholeheartedly agree. I think people forget that they're explosives and incredibly dangerous.

Even if only 5% of people misuse them, thats still far too many. I've seen kids light them and throw them at people and cars. I read every year about horrendous injuries, even deaths, from something which serves no real purpose.

Your solution the concerns of another think that big displays would upset [all] wildlife was to point of that your local displays were silent Jacques. If those two points are not related and you only think silent displays are required near farm animals, as in your local area, it wasn't obvious.

And when it's all finished does everyone trade in clapping for the snowflake jazz hands?

What's wrong with being considerate of those with ptsd, noise sensitivies, animals, wildlife? Taking away the bang hardly takes away masses of enjoyment.

Yanbu but there's always people who feel they should be entitled to buy their explosives because they like them so who cares about anyone else.

The last thread on this subject was full of posters like this. They like setting fireworks off in their back garden, so stuff every one else. Stuff pets and farm animals and wildlife and the elderly and war veterans and ex service people with PTSD and people with autism and sensory issues etc.

Sainsburys have stopped selling them this year, and hopefully others will follow suit.

Well home firworks tend to be quieter then display ones. I have been to group displays organised by church groups, but not official display fireworks the main hazards were actually the fire not the fireworks. I have always had fireworks and animals and guess what none died. A sparkler in a crowd can still be dangerous. So I say yabu. Making laws stricter will also mean small displays organised by churches, youth clubs ect will also have to be stopped.