To think veganism is not for children?

[ohhhhlivia]

Yes, I am aware that it is perfectly possible to have a healthy vegan diet at any age. I know that.

However, it is more difficult and easier to get wrong if you want to be vegan. It still is restrictive (even with all of the new stuff coming out) as in you need to tell hosts, check menus in advance etc.

It's a barrier that has to be overcome. I don't understand why you would do that to someone who has no choice in the matter.

Lots of kids go through a fussy phase too, add veganism in and surely you're at a high risk of health problems?

I think what I'm getting at, is that childhood nutrition can be hard enough as it is, so it just feels wrong to make it harder for reasons that do not directly benefit the child.

@Expo
Read the thread. Yes

@piouyt123

You are also not giving enough recognition to the fact that the best source of Vitamin D is not from food ..

but difficult to attain in the UK from the sun.

@Expo
Yes, hope this helps.

@Expo Yes.

Biologically, it is clearly an animal product.
Hence why I'm so curious as to whether a human can exist from birth solely on plants? Ie...no animal products including breast milk

That’s a total non-sequitur so the ‘hence’ makes no sense. It’s not clear why you’re so curious about this or why you think anyone on this thread could answer that question - there’s hardly likely to be any research done is there?

@Aquamarine1029
I'm sorry you were unaware of official NHS and Department of Health nutrition advice.

I would recommend you do a bit of reading up

@formerbabe You've been asking the same questions for pages now. You've been answered many times. Time to give it a rest now and stop playing blind.

But posters keep saying they have vegan children and they're healthy and those children have been breastfed so have consumed an animal product.

My question is can humans survive solely on plants from birth?

Seems a reasonable question to me.

BellatrixLestat Milk banks tend to be for prem or sick babies. However it is possible to donate or receive breastmilk through milk sharing which is an informal arrangement.

Ah I thought breast milk was an animal byproduct and hence was not vegan. Glad there is the exception is made.

If the mother is vegan then the breast milk will have no dairy in it. So yeah, a human can be raised solely on a plant diet from birth. It's a easy question to answer once you apply a bit of common sense.

@formerbabe you’re derailing the thread, and as already answers no one can give you that answer
If you’re that bothered do your own research on the subject or at least start your own thread. You’re tedious

All the 'vegan' kids I know beg for meat as soon as they're away from home and pick at their mate's chicken nuggets. Same with the kids not allowed sweets or not allowed on the PlayStation. They'll just crave it more if they think it's forbidden fruit. A bit counterproductive until they can make the choice for them self.

you’re derailing the thread, and as already answers no one can give you that answer

I'd have thought it was a pivotal question when discussing veganism.

Ah I thought breast milk was an animal byproduct and hence was not vegan. Glad there is the exception is made.

It’s only seen as an ‘exception’ if after 6 pages you’re unable to comprehend the many previous posts that have explained that many vegans see their lifestyle as a philosophical rather than rule-based choice. And are incapable of using google.
However it does seem as if a surprising number of posters are facing those limitations.

Horrid comments from either side. Vegans believe killing animals is wrong ( under most circumstances.)
Non vegans think that it's fine to kill animals for food.
I think that eating meat is natural and neither moral or immoral but the way it's produced is unethical. However, as a selfish person i eat the occassional bit of meat.
Why cant people live and let live...if you want to be vegan and raise your kid vegan ...fine. likewise if you want to eat meat and raise your kids onmniverous...fine too.

Whatever side of the coin you are on if your kids are malbourished eyebrows will be raised...aand alarm bells will ring..whether your child eats lentils or chicken nuggets.

So of breast milk is considered vegan because no animal has been exploited to produce it, does that mean that if a vegan finds a dead animal in the woods, they are allowed to eat it?

*if

For those wondering if human breastmilk is vegan, the answer is of course!

Here is a definition of veganism for you.

“Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose.”

It has fuck all to do with whether or not we are animals/mammals and the composition of human breastmilk.

I'd have thought it was a pivotal question when discussing veganism

Which aspect of vegan ethics specifically do you think it pertains to?
You seem to be the only person asking it and despite being answered twice you’re repeating yourself so if perhaps if you could elaborate how you think it’s important to vegan ethics someone could actually give you some useful information?

Or you could admit you’ve got zero interest in learning anything and are simply attempting to goad posters into discussing dying babies again. It’s getting rather tiresome and unpleasant.

So of breast milk is considered vegan because no animal has been exploited to produce it, does that mean that if a vegan finds a dead animal in the woods, they are allowed to eat it?

Depends on whether you believe consumption is exploitation. There isn’t a vegan rule book

@formerbabe

I wouldn't but if you really are interested this explains some considerations around this. tldr: some people would consider it ok.

www.veganfriendly.org.uk/articles/can-vegans-eat-roadkill/

@Veterinari

Wondering if a human can survive from birth on plants is fundamental surely to veganism

Wondering if a human can survive from birth on plants is fundamental surely to veganism

You can keep repeating that but it doesn't Make it true. Especially since you clearly have no idea what veganism actually is.

@poiuyt123

Thanks for the link. It's very interesting.