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Out with child in a pram and you need the loo...

160 replies

Blackbear19 · 26/10/2019 18:19

If your on your own what do you do?
The obvious answer is to use the 'family loo' if there is one but few places seem to have them. Do you?

  1. Use a standard cubical in the ladies. Keeping the door open so you can keep an eye on child?
  1. Ask a stranger to keep an eye?
  1. Leave pram unattended and hope for the best?
  1. Use a shewee?
  1. Quickly nip into the accessible loo?

List all that apply or you'd consider.

OP posts:
ffswhatnext · 26/10/2019 20:22

I always think accessible loo is fine for this; it’s when mum or dad goes in with their five kids who all need a wee too that I start to lose my shit internally (and unfortunately possibly externally too

And of course, it couldn't be that they have more./same right to use the toilet than you

MaryShelley1818 · 26/10/2019 20:22

I don’t think I’ve ever used an accessible toilet which hasn’t also been the baby changing so I just pee while I’m in there. In almost 2yrs I’ve never ever came out to anyone waiting. I care for my mother also who is in a wheelchair so I’m not ignorant to people with disabilities.
I work for Children’s Services though and there is no way in hell I’d hand my baby over to a stranger, you’ve no idea who strangers are.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 26/10/2019 20:22

I didn't use a pram much really (preferred sling) but on a couple of occasions I put a changing mat on a cubicle floor and laid DS on it while I used the loo!

It was rare for me to be somewhere alone for hours and hours. If I was out for more than 3 hours I was usually meeting a friend or relative, or at a baby group etc where I would trust people to watch the baby for me.

PepePig · 26/10/2019 20:24

Baby change toilets or bring my baby into a cubicle with me. More often than not I'd just hold it in until I can get home if no one's with me, though. Wouldn't occur to me to use a specifically disabled-only loo. I am not who it is intended for.

Rosti1981 · 26/10/2019 20:24

I think pretty much every accessible loo where I lived when DCs were pram age also included a baby change, so I would have used that. I wouldn't use just a disabled toilet but nearly every accessible toilet in the vicinity (SW London if that makes any difference) was deliberately intended as baby change facility as well.
Though I did mostly sling.

Cineraria · 26/10/2019 20:25

Put baby in sling and go into regular cubicle locking door with pram outside.

JesusSufferingFuck22 · 26/10/2019 20:26

I'm a wheelchair user and have absolutely no issue with people using the disabled toilet when they have a wee one in tow. As a previous poster said, the disabled toilet often has the baby changing table in it anyway. It's not an issue and no one should judge you for going for a pee and making sure your little one is safe.

hammeringinmyhead · 26/10/2019 20:26

If the baby change is in the acessible toilet I have a quick wee in there. If not end cubicle with pram wheeled in and door open. It normally fits, but you can't then close the door. Aforementioned pram blocks my bits anyway.

Sparrowlegs248 · 26/10/2019 20:26

I live quite rurally, near to a market town. I have never had this issue. The local Wetherspoons doesn't have a toilet in the baby change but I only ever went there with others so it wasn't an issue. Anywhere else has baby change with toilet, or the accessible toilet had the baby change in it too.

Strangerthingshere · 26/10/2019 20:27

@ActualHornist maybe because some of the other options are batshit- no I don't want to leave my baby with a stranger. No I also don't want to leave the door open while I pee

MintyMabel · 26/10/2019 20:27

That’s another half hour.

So far your “quick pee” has put the disabled toilet out of use for nearly 90 minutes. That’s assuming you are all only in there for a few minutes.

Have any of you few minuters signed?

www.change.org/p/change-building-planning-regulations-to-make-changing-places-toilets-compulsory

ffswhatnext · 26/10/2019 20:27

Some places think that changing mat is suitable for all ages. I wish I was kidding.
It makes sense having a baby changing area in the disabled/accessible toilet. Considering there are parents/carers with health issues.
Imagine the outrage from some about disabled people not only have their own loo but to also use the regular changing area.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 26/10/2019 20:27

I used a sling a lot but I found that peeing with a baby in a sling was only a viable option for about 4 months - after that he was too long to sit down while he was in the sling. He was a massively long baby (98th centile) but surely no matter what this isn't going to be a practical solution for the whole length of the time that you have the buggy/toilet problem?

Rosti1981 · 26/10/2019 20:28

I would also have changed the baby at the same time if that makes any difference!
We used cloth nappies so I changed them pretty regularly, 3 hourly ish, so it made sense to double up for both of us.
Obviously i can completely understand why accessible toilets should be separate from baby change/ pram accessible toilets, BUT if the change facilities were in that space then what exactly are you supposed to do?!

transformandriseup · 26/10/2019 20:28

If I wasn't changing the baby I would use the normal toilet and leave the baby just outside with the door open a crack. However I would usually plan my own toilet trip around changing the baby so may end up using the disabled toilet if they had the only changing table. I can't change her in the car as I no longer have one.

CactusAndCacti · 26/10/2019 20:28

I just left the buggy outside the shut cubicle door. I also let a Morrisons worker hold dd1 for me, she offered, so I let her.

AmIChangingagain · 26/10/2019 20:29

All those using the disabled loos. Is having a child in a pram a disability?

FFS

Oh and nice TAAT Op

MintyMabel · 26/10/2019 20:29

Imagine the outrage from some about disabled people not only have their own loo but to also use the regular changing area.

The current design regulations say the space for baby change must also be accessible, with a lower changing area and space for a wheelchair. It doesn’t need to be within the accessible toilet.

Newmumma83 · 26/10/2019 20:31

I used the disabled loo ... not letting anyone see me with my pants down and won’t trust a stranger to watch my child x

Samplesss · 26/10/2019 20:31

Here most of the disabled toilets double up as baby changing (not assumed, signed and with a changing table). I still feel bad about using it but will if I'm desperate for the loo, much quicker than if I was changing baby in there (I tend to do this either in the car or pram to be honest as it can take a while). If it was radar key and had hoists etc in then no, I wouldn't. To be honest I was doubly incontinent after birth, which has improved significantly since surgery, but I never really went out alone due to worrying about this scenario Blush. I wouldn't have been happy to ask anyone and leave baby with them, but in reality I didn't always have time anyway. It's tricky, I don't think the facilities should be used if they are strictly disabled and not dual use, but not sure of a logical solution either.

Lazypuppy · 26/10/2019 20:31

I use the disabled toilet as thats where the baby chae normally is. If there's a family room, i use that, but most smaller places there isn't

ffswhatnext · 26/10/2019 20:33

I know. Just after reading the other thread and this one, I'm getting fed up with those who have an actual medical need feel the need to justify their use of facilities aimed at them.
And public accessible toilets having a buzzer entry system, you know cos the people behind the buzzer have magic glasses.

Newmumma83 · 26/10/2019 20:34

I do try to hold as much as my newly weekend bladder allows

AmIChangingagain · 26/10/2019 20:36

Funnily enough we use accessible toilets and I've never come across baby changing in there too

OneEpisode · 26/10/2019 20:36

I’m female so 1., End cubicle door ajar. When it was dh alone, he’d use the urinals and park the pushchair angled appropriately.

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