Friend wants me to do online maths test for job

[Usernamqwerty]

My friend has been offered a job for which she has to do an online numerical reasoning test to get the job (think it's NHS / similar test in private sector). She's asked me to do it as says she's rubbish at maths (although she has a psychology degree and her maths level is probably about the same as mine - not great but enough to get by!).

Failing that, she also asked me to see if DH would do it for her (A-level maths and economics degree) which I think is a bit CFery...

AIBU to say no? It's just so awkward 🙄. She's asked me a few times before and I've just mumbled an excuse...

I'd say no, she needs to do this herself. If she gets the job this isn't going to help her in the long run.

I would not help my friend commit fraud.

Also, those tests tend to be ridiculously rudimentary. If she can’t pass, she probably isn’t qualified for the job.

there must be a reason they are testing her maths skills, if she can't even pass a test on her own without getting someone else to do it then how will she cope with the actual job...don't do it,

Thank you! I just feel so uncomfortable every time she asks 🙄. It's not right. No way would I ask someone to do a test for me - it's technically cheating, right?

No, if it feels wrong, it is wrong.

It's fraud, don't do it.

I would advise her to get practising! There are plenty of Kindle books you can download with test questions. It's amazing how much a bit of practise helps with these kinds of tests.

Lol I got my brother to do mine 😂

They can tell cant they. I did unsupervised and then supervised maths tests, apparently if the standard differs wildly they elininate you. So even if she gets through by your efforts, she may then have to replicate that in a supervised format.

it's technically cheating, right? It's not technically cheating, it's full-on cheating!

I would absolutely say no. Theres a reason they have to have a decent level of maths

Depends on how relevant maths skills are for the job. I used to work at a firm that made everyone take this test and then discard the results for roles it was irrelevant for. Completely pointless in that case.

YANBU, she is being really stupid to ask. If she's not capable of that level of maths for the job she's going to come a cropper sooner or later.

Thank you! Am trying to think of how to tell her without her getting the hump at me 🙄

You could offer to sit with her while she does it. Bit like supervising homework!

Surely if it's online she wouldn't need you to help her cheat, she would be able to use a calculator and have access to Google for trickier questions, even Alexa/Google answer maths questions if you ask them.
Not sure why she's even asking you, say no.

It's fraud and you could both get into trouble. Don't do it! She's not a real friend if she demands you do this then makes your life hard if you don't.

Just say no as you wouldn’t want to be responsible if you didn’t pass the test and screwed up her chances.

Say what rainbowshine said. That is perfect.

Say no and send her details of an adult numeracy course - they're free for people who haven't got a GCSE in Maths - and if she's got a GCSE, she'll be fine anyway.

What @Rainbowshine said

It isn't technically cheating, it is actual real life cheating!

What if her job is something involving drug/medication doses or analysing lab results and she doesn't understand the maths, she could possibly cause the death of someone.

As for how you tell her, just say "No"!

She needs to pay you

SIL had one of these tests last week and failed : she should have payed someone to pass it for her

I got my husband to do the boring maths test for my aerospace management job as he’s an actual theoretical mathematician and I absolutely couldn’t be arsed. I’m doing great, my most recent payrise has me bringing home 6 figures after tax (finally). I’m great at my job. If I need to figure out some boring year ten word problem about some arbitrary exchange rate conversions, well, I have people to do that for me. Or I can use google like everyone else.