Friend wants me to do online maths test for job

[Usernamqwerty]

My friend has been offered a job for which she has to do an online numerical reasoning test to get the job (think it's NHS / similar test in private sector). She's asked me to do it as says she's rubbish at maths (although she has a psychology degree and her maths level is probably about the same as mine - not great but enough to get by!).

Failing that, she also asked me to see if DH would do it for her (A-level maths and economics degree) which I think is a bit CFery...

AIBU to say no? It's just so awkward 🙄. She's asked me a few times before and I've just mumbled an excuse...

The likelihood of being caught has no bearing on the illegality of the action.

The remark I was responding to was "Its not a criminal offence", which is incorrect.

If she comes back with an excuse like "nobody will know" or similar to the fraud excuse just say "Mary no, you really aren't getting the hint, I'm just not doing it, it's unfair of you to even ask, if I did badly you not getting the job would be on me, no thanks I don't want that pressure. Subject closed. Good luck with the test"

@Cohle Thanks for those examples. I remember them well. And I know of a few other cases where people have been prosecuted and convicted for FRAUD after lying their ass off to get a particular job. I can't think for the life of me why anyone would think it's not a criminal offence. It's FRAUD. That's a criminal offence.

You could say that you would do it but only as a joke and not necessarily choosing the correct answers, since you would know what the incorrect answers would be. Does she want to take that risk, or would she rather be honest?

She's no friend or she wouldn't ask.
It's up to you but I'd sooner lose the friendship than it be built on lies.

How did she get her degree, did she pay someone to write it for her?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/28/i-felt-guilty-when-i-got-my-results-your-stories-of-buying-essays

Depends how close you are?
If it was family or one of my close friends I would do it or at least help them through it

no, that's fraud. If she has a degree she is sufficiently intelligent, so tell her to stop being so wet and learn what she needs to know.

'feminine = thick' went out some time ago. And don't leave money around her either because her standards are clearly quite low.

@mencken

If she has a degree - she is sufficiently intelligent.

Probably got someone else to do half the work for her degree too. (Including her dissertation.)

I used to hate giving bad news to customers - but it is easier to do it sooner rather than overthinking it which tends to make mountains out of molehills AND in the grand scheme of things what is a few minutes of 'awkward' conversation?

Maybe phrase it something like this;

"Im flattered you think my maths is better than yours. However, I've thought hard about it and I'm not going to take that test because you are MORE than capable and DH and I have every faith in your ability!"

A sort of 'shit-sandwich' approach. Mention DH's name too so she understands that it is also a 'no' from him.

*I'm - not 'Im'

I'd do it for one of sisters but in this instance I'd say no.

it's a management role for a private sector supported accomodation type role

Then maybe I'm naïve/old fashioned, but if I was putting someone I cared about into supported living I'd like to be able to be confident that the staff were honest and trustworthy. So to me it isn't just about whether or not she can do her sums.

I’d do it. Friends help each other.

friends do not help each other commit fraud.

This is real life, not Eastenders. And shame on you if you help her make a fraudulent application to this trusted position.

tell her to grow up and do her own maths. No doubt she can operate a brickphone and buy crap online. So she can do this.