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To want to know why vendors are selling

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shoebedobedobedobedoo · 20/10/2019 17:39

We are at exchange stage(as in about to). Nothing has come up in survey or searches. When we first looked at the house EA said vendors were moving due to ‘change of circumstances‘. On second viewing we were told vendors had already moved out into rented. They had taken NOTHING with them. No furniture, no kids toys, nothing. It looked like they had walked out one morning and hadn’t come back. We had our offer accepted (had to increase twice). We have subsequently had 2 other nebulous reasons as to why they are selling, and most recently told they wanted to move to a detached house. On our 3rd viewing all the woman’s was gone, but not the mans. All kids stuff still there. Pre exchange visit almost everything gone.We know (via reliable village gossip) that they have moved into a much smaller rented property less than 1/2 mile away. Were they sleeping and sitting on the floor? Neither direct neighbour even knew they were moving or that the house was on the market until we knocked on their doors. They haven’t spoken to the neighbours to tell them they are going/have gone.
The house has had extensive work done by the vendors, all in a diy kind of fashion.
Why would anyone move out of an obviously loved family home into a smaller rented place before they have even had an offer on their house? And why all the odd reasons for moving. Why not at least just give one reason and stick to it. We are worried that there may be something major wrong with the house, not picked up in the survey (there a long list in our last purchase) or the vendors know something about an as yet unpublicised building project (it’s surrounded by farm land). Would you be worried about buying this house or am I over thinking this?

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blackfriars · 21/10/2019 12:50

Ask your solicitor to carry out the type of planning search which will bring up nearby planned developments. I think it's called a 'Devplan' search.

GabsAlot · 21/10/2019 13:21

Im glad i dont know my neigbours so well that if someone comes roun d buying a house they think they can talk about me

what a weird thing to do

There could be any reason financial trouble spousal seperation nothg to do with you

Oliversmumsarmy · 21/10/2019 13:34

I don’t see anything odd about moving out into a smaller rented place.

We will probably do the same then look for a place from there.

We have to have a specific requirement in our next house and know that it isn’t readily available.

We have a central point we want to live around and have a wide 10 mile radius but have only seen a handful of places suitable

They probably left the furniture in the property till it was sold or about to be exchanged

Teacher22 · 21/10/2019 17:33

Perhaps they want to be cash buyers for their new property. No one could afford to rent a house the same size as they were buying. Rents cost more than mortgages for similar properties.

Tiredand · 21/10/2019 17:37

If I was moving home right now (up or down), I’d nice into something cheap and rented to be a cash buyer for the next property. We did that with my mum, she ended up buying her rental flat at a bargain price.

Chloemol · 21/10/2019 17:50

Sorry but actually it is none of your business. You have a survey that shows everything is ok. If it was due to neighbours behaviour etc the EA or them has to advise you. It could be for a number of personal reasons they just don’t want to discuss

Either you are happy with the house or you are not. Your choice

manicmij · 21/10/2019 17:51

Could be anything, personal, financial, work, school catchment, a multitude of reasons. They could be a bit embarrassed to say why outright.

alig99 · 21/10/2019 18:07

To be quite frank it's not your business, vendors can give any reason for example we need a bigger/smaller property or we changed jobs, it might not be true. It's up to you (the buyer) to do due diligence and assure yourself the property is sound and that there are no issues.

Disfordarkchocolate · 21/10/2019 18:11

It's none of your business at all, no matter how much money you are spending. Do a full survey, be careful with your searches etc and move in. It's what we all do. It sounds very like money issues.

glennamy · 21/10/2019 18:13

We know (via reliable village gossip) that they have moved into a much smaller rented property less than 1/2 mile away.

Wow - looks like you are moving into your perfect location going by your NEED to know something that has got nothing to do with you!

nuxe1984 · 21/10/2019 18:35

You're overthinking. They've split up.
And haven't told neighbours cos it's Jones of their business ... or yours!

Vivianebrookskoviak · 21/10/2019 18:53

If you're spending so much money on a house I think you do have a right to know as they could be hiding something that could be a make or break reason for you. We were given a shit reason for why the vendors were moving and we keep getting their mail still nearly 2 years later, the latest piece being banking correspondence(I googled the return address on the envelope) plus the way we had to fight off British Gas over what they owed between when they moved out(3 months)and exchange with no forwarding address is suspicious.
I wouldn't trust a survey, not worth the paper they're written on, I've had a property solicitor tell me and I know from personal experience of two that didn't pick up on issues that were there.
If they keep changing their story it's suspicious and you've got a right to know.

busyhonestchildcarer · 21/10/2019 19:01

Doesnt matter if you are spending a few grand or six figure sum it is none of your business!!!If you have had a survey then thats that.However as you are already getting involved in local gossip I wouldnt want you as my neighbour

Mrsgogginsthe3rd · 21/10/2019 20:20

@blackfriars people do not move out of their properties before it is sold into rented because of prospective planning applications!! It’s clearly a financial/family issue and has nothing to do with the property it’s self. No need to ask solicitors to do a planing search all LA’s will have planning portals on their websites where you can search planning applications by road, postcode, village etc. It’s all very open and transparent.

Mrsgogginsthe3rd · 21/10/2019 20:22

OP you’re barking - sorry. I would honestly find it so bizarre if a stranger turned up on my doorstep and wanted to know the gossip on my neighbours. I consider myself a lovely neighbour but you would probably think I was a cow as you would get short shrift and a gentle door slam from me.

Either you like the house and it’s worth the cash or you don’t and it’s not!

NoobThebrave · 21/10/2019 20:23

Ours had a watertight 'reason' that turned out to be a blatant lie!! House was a pile of crap, disputes not declared, dodgy ownership of entrance etc etc but not obvious from smiley them, survey, searches etc. Go around at different times of day/night, get the survey and searches done. I would suspect tough times and/or timing to catch a school start. We moved to green belt that they are about to build on :( Really hard to know everything but locals can give you the low down on most things. If it doesn't feel right then there are other houses.

Mrsgogginsthe3rd · 21/10/2019 20:24

Out of interest did the chap ever build the entertainment venue on his land or was it just idle gossip?

Mrsgogginsthe3rd · 21/10/2019 20:28

@Vivianebrookskoviak you’re still getting their mail?! How have you possibly coped Hmm

Giraffey1 · 21/10/2019 20:37

We pulled out of a purchase because one set of neighbours was planning to turn their Adjacent derelict farm (ie other side of the fence) into an entertainment venue. They hadn’t submitted planning and we would only have known this because we asked the neighbours.

Really? Neighbours might have been lying. Or it might just have been an idea. Or they might never have got planning permission!

It really is very unusual to go around knocking prospective neighbours’ doors!

user1471549213 · 21/10/2019 20:41

You've been given 4 different reasons presumably by the estate agent. EA-s are full of crap at the best of times so they've probably forgotten what the original reason was that they told you.

leomama81 · 21/10/2019 20:44

If suddenly the woman's stuff is gone but not the man's, that is a pretty good indication that they've split, surely?

I agree though it is none of your business, obviously something personal has happened to the family, if you were my buyer and kept pushing to know my family business (something most likely painful) I'd seriously consider putting my property back on the market as it sounds like you are looking for a reason to pull out.

museumsandgalleries666 · 21/10/2019 20:46

Perhaps they were on a witness protection program and the bad guys found out where they were.... I hope you don't get mistaken for the family on the run Grin

holidays987 · 21/10/2019 20:52

We moved into a private rented for a short time while selling, to make sure we were in the catchment for a better school. Where we were buying. We had to be in the postcode before applications closed and the sale was as taking too long. I'd never say that was the reason to the agent or buyer. We said we were moving location to be closer to social circle.
The local school to the house we owned was ok (but not great) and we didn't want to put anyone off. Most of our stuff we left because the rented place was tiny and we wanted to keep things simple. Took it on exchange day.

nannieann · 21/10/2019 20:59

Here's my theory : woman has walked out on husband & children, moving in with her lover, taking only minimal possessions. Husband has moved temporarily into furnished rental - no room for many kids' toys - because he needs to a bit nearer work/drop-offs. Wife has then removed all her belongings (as witnessed on your third viewing). Husband has subsequently bought wife out and will be moving into a detached house with the kids once the sale is completed. This is just one of many possible scenarios which a vendor might not want to share with a potential purchaser!

shoebedobedobedobedoo · 21/10/2019 21:05

Really? Neighbours might have been lying. Or it might just have been an idea. Or they might never have got planning permission!

Neighbours weren’t lying. It’s come up in every surrounding village’sparish council meeting. We have subsequently met one of the developers (in an entirely different setting). I’m not sure if planning has actually gone in yet, (because it’s no longer a concern of mine to follow), but it’s a brownfield site and one of the owners has conveniently just got himself elected as a local councillor, so I’d say it’s extremely likely that something will be developed there, and I didn’t fancy either fighting it or living with it, so we pulled out.

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