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To be expecting more from my grieving husband?

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watermelon55 · 17/10/2019 18:22

I’m really trying to find out whether I’m being unfair, or expecting too much of my husband. Over the last year both of my husband’s parents have died, one of them after a short illness, and the other suddenly a few months later. My husband had a good relationship with them and has obviously been devastated. During the illness he talked quite openly about how he felt, we were both very sad and I felt that it would be hard but that we would help each other, and our kids, through it. I have experienced the loss of a close family member so I understand how painful grief is.

However, he has not been able to talk about how he feels at all. He started off by saying that he feels numb, and I felt that he was still processing the shock and had buried all the pain, but a bit more time has passed and I had thought that he may start to find it easier to express how he feels, or at least attempt to put this into words. However, it still seems just as hard as when they had both just died. He says he thinks about them but doesn’t get upset.

I feel like he has shut all his emotions away, as he also finds it difficult to relate to anyone else’s emotions. If I talk to him about how I feel he doesn’t really respond, I find this hard, as it’s difficult to talk about for me, and so when I get nothing back in response I just wish I’d not said anything. He can’t really understand how our children are feeling either. Getting him to discuss anything where emotions are involved is really difficult, it’s almost like it’s a foreign language to him.

We both work, we have children and so our lives are busy, days and weeks will go past without there being the opportunity to talk about anything more than who’s picking up who and who’s paid the bills, etc. I completely get that that is the reality of family life. But I love him and care about him and feel that I should try to help him, and try to get him to deal with things and talk about things. I also feel that I should be trying to help our relationship and so I will bring the subject up after a bit of time has passed. This is always really hard, as he is defensive and will deflect my questions or focus on small details that are not really important. I always end up regretting that I’ve tried, and it just reminds me that he’s got everything so bottled up and he hasn’t really begun to deal with what has happened to him.

I understand that everyone deals with grief differently and if I felt that the way he was dealing with it was enabling him to gradually move forward then I would respect that, but I feel he is stuck and it is seriously affecting our relationship. He says he feels ‘flat’, and when he describes how he feels it sounds like depression. He can’t get enthusiastic or excited about things. We have no sex life and this as well as getting no emotional input from him, has made me feel lonely and un-loved.

I want to help him, but feel like I'm not, and am losing hope.

OP posts:
springydaff · 18/10/2019 01:10

You don't 'choose' how you grieve imo - grief has a life of its own, you just don't know how it's going to go.

Topseyt · 18/10/2019 02:53

You really can't influence this or rush it in any way. You know that now.

My DH lost his Dad in 2002 and his Mum in 2014. He isn't a big talker about emotional things. He deals with stuff by becoming very introspective at times and just needs time and space. With time and space he comes back to being more himself again.

It sounds as though perhaps your DH is somewhat like that? All you can do is be there if needed. He doesn't have to discuss his grief openly if he doesn't want to, but hopefully in time he will come to a point where he can talk about his parents again.

Perhaps he just wants time to himself to lick his wounds while he feels so fragile and vulnerable.

The children will speak of their grandparents sometimes if they are of an age to have strong memories of them. That is just reality. Perhaps one thing you can do is deal with their worries and questions for now, so that DH doesn't have to until he is much more able.

WhatTiggersDoBest · 18/10/2019 03:38

I have experienced the loss of a close family member so I understand how painful grief is.

It's not the same. It's just not. I thought I understood grief from losing 3 grandparents through my life, and 2 close friends. Absolutely nothing prepared me for suddenly losing both my parents within 3 months of each other when I was in my twenties. I have never in my life been through such a hard 18 months. I couldn't regulate my emotions at all and I couldn't talk about it because that made it real. If I'd had kids they would have ended up in care that year because I wasn't even looking after myself.

It literally broke my brain. Losing 2 parents is absolutely nothing like losing anyone else, it's not even like losing 1 parent.

I know you need him, and the kids need him, but he needs all of you right now. He needs you all to be there for him in the thousands of ways that family members can show love without having to drag up why he's not firing on all cylinders.

aurynne · 18/10/2019 04:44

Be there.

Be quiet.

If and when he chooses to talk, let him talk and don't interrupt him. Hug him.

If he does not talk, touch his arm and look into his eye, and nod. Kiss him lightly. Do little things that remind him you're there, but put no pressure on him to do or feel anything.

Let him grieve as he needs to.

Bahhhhhumbug · 18/10/2019 05:00

Bloody hell, who are you, the grief police?
Maybe the no sex is his way of keeping one bit of control over himself and his own feelings as you seem to be trying dictate how everything else should go

StoutDrinker2019 · 18/10/2019 07:32

There is so much projection and defensive on this thread its really worrying. I would suggest you repost op and remove the word bereavement and put traumatic event instead. You'll get some more balanced views that way. You are totally justified to have your own feelings about blthid and no one has read your question properly. You habt been bothering your husband to talk about the bereavements you have been worried about his lack of emotional availability and the impact this might be having on you and the children. Which is totally justified no matter what the trigger might be. So sorry for these insensitive comments on your behalf. No sex for a year is not fair to you and you have every right to expect some level of intimacy from your husband.

Alsohuman · 18/10/2019 08:54

There’s very little defence on this thread @StoutDrinker2019, just a lot f people who have lost their parents telling OP exactly what it’s like because she very clearly doesn’t understand the depth and ferocity of that grief any more than you do. How that shatters your world, how for a while you don’t care about anything.

Nobody has a right to sex or intimacy or would demand it from someone in pain. The reason “traumatic event” doesn’t work is because losing both your parents in the space of a year is the worst thing that can happen you and it rips you apart.

hovatn · 18/10/2019 09:30

You habt been bothering your husband to talk about the bereavements you have been worried about his lack of emotional availability and the impact this might be having on you and the children. Which is totally justified no matter what the trigger might be. So sorry for these insensitive comments on your behalf. No sex for a year is not fair to you and you have every right to expect some level of intimacy from your husband.

Where's he supposed to summon up his emotional availability from please? I lost my Dad suddenly a few months ago and my Mam is also dead. I am not emotionally available. It's enough just to get up in the morning and vaguely function. To go to work to earn money. To keep the household running etcetc. I need every last bit of strength to do that. OP's DH is probably experiencing exactly the same thing and he has lost two parents within a year. It's horrific for him and he's supposed to be emotionally available.
And he's supposed to have sex because it's "unfair" to the OP. Fucking hell - it's unfair that he's lost both his parents in such a short space of time. That's what's unfair.
The way the OP is written it sounds as if she is bringing up the subject again and again and trying to get him to talk about it. He doesn't want to at the moment.
Also she hasn't told us how many months it is since the sudden death. If it's less than 6 months she cannot expect anything at all from him! If he's going to work and still contributing to family life (even if not emotionally) then he is doing his absolute best.

The OP's update was nice - shows that she has taken on board the experiences of others. I think the OP is a very nice person and means well.

CherryChapst1ck · 18/10/2019 10:00

Hmm. I've read your OP and subsequent posts and think you have a point actually. And I speak as someone whose mum died in February and dad died in April. So it's been 8 and 6 months for me.

I was very close to my mum and dad. We spoke every day. I was especially close to my mum and I'm absolutely devastated at her loss. Same for my dad of course but especially so my mum. I've had two lots of 'death admin' to sort, probate x 2, clearing and selling their home etc so I can understand a little how your husband feels

I also am married with two kids. My husband has been an absolute diamond. He doesn't ask how I'm feeling particularly as no point but he's kind and loving and quietly supportive.

I wouldn't dream of detaching from him or shutting him out. Yeah I'm sad and yeah sometimes it's really bad but for the most part I take comfort from the day to day stuff with my family and husband and your parents dying (will happen to us all!) shouldn't mean your marriage has to suffer.

I'd stop asking him to talk about it or open up that's for sure. But I also don't think it's particularly kind of him to give you the emotional cold shoulder

The death of your parents doesn't give you a free pass to be off hand and detached with your partner. Does it?

CherryChapst1ck · 18/10/2019 10:05

@StoutDrinker2019 I agree with you

I've lost my parents. I can tell you what it's like. Both of them within 8 weeks! Terrible. I'm bereft.

I also won't be bizarrely retreating from my husband and family because - news flash - life has to go on. Kids need looking after properly. I've got one at uni and one who's 12 - they both need stuff from me and I don't have the luxury to just check out of my relationships because I'm grieving.

Alsohuman · 18/10/2019 10:50

@CherryChapst1ck, so very sorry, what an awful thing to go through. I’m amazed you’re still standing. 💐

It does illustrate that we’re all different and grief affects us all differently. I was most definitely emotionally unavailable because I had no choice, as someone succinctly pointed out earlier, you can’t pour from an empty glass.

AllFourOfThem · 18/10/2019 10:53

When DD died, DH and I grieved differently in many ways. I still cry daily now and doubt I will ever get over it. I just don’t think you can compare grief and how another person will be.

CherryChapst1ck · 18/10/2019 10:55

@Alsohuman sorry for you too. It's absolutely awful isn't it? I do have a cry every day which I find so bloody irritating - it's like being ambushed by grief constantly

I do have my mother's voice in my head when I'm wallowing and crying however. Mainly saying ' pull yourself together for god sake!' Which is exactly what she'd be saying. So that helps Grin

Alsohuman · 18/10/2019 11:01

Yes, it’s dreadful. Crying’s good, it’s very healing. Don’t beat yourself up for having completely normal emotions.

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