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To be expecting more from my grieving husband?

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watermelon55 · 17/10/2019 18:22

I’m really trying to find out whether I’m being unfair, or expecting too much of my husband. Over the last year both of my husband’s parents have died, one of them after a short illness, and the other suddenly a few months later. My husband had a good relationship with them and has obviously been devastated. During the illness he talked quite openly about how he felt, we were both very sad and I felt that it would be hard but that we would help each other, and our kids, through it. I have experienced the loss of a close family member so I understand how painful grief is.

However, he has not been able to talk about how he feels at all. He started off by saying that he feels numb, and I felt that he was still processing the shock and had buried all the pain, but a bit more time has passed and I had thought that he may start to find it easier to express how he feels, or at least attempt to put this into words. However, it still seems just as hard as when they had both just died. He says he thinks about them but doesn’t get upset.

I feel like he has shut all his emotions away, as he also finds it difficult to relate to anyone else’s emotions. If I talk to him about how I feel he doesn’t really respond, I find this hard, as it’s difficult to talk about for me, and so when I get nothing back in response I just wish I’d not said anything. He can’t really understand how our children are feeling either. Getting him to discuss anything where emotions are involved is really difficult, it’s almost like it’s a foreign language to him.

We both work, we have children and so our lives are busy, days and weeks will go past without there being the opportunity to talk about anything more than who’s picking up who and who’s paid the bills, etc. I completely get that that is the reality of family life. But I love him and care about him and feel that I should try to help him, and try to get him to deal with things and talk about things. I also feel that I should be trying to help our relationship and so I will bring the subject up after a bit of time has passed. This is always really hard, as he is defensive and will deflect my questions or focus on small details that are not really important. I always end up regretting that I’ve tried, and it just reminds me that he’s got everything so bottled up and he hasn’t really begun to deal with what has happened to him.

I understand that everyone deals with grief differently and if I felt that the way he was dealing with it was enabling him to gradually move forward then I would respect that, but I feel he is stuck and it is seriously affecting our relationship. He says he feels ‘flat’, and when he describes how he feels it sounds like depression. He can’t get enthusiastic or excited about things. We have no sex life and this as well as getting no emotional input from him, has made me feel lonely and un-loved.

I want to help him, but feel like I'm not, and am losing hope.

OP posts:
StoutDrinker2019 · 17/10/2019 20:44

I don't understand how it is normal or helpful to bury emotions and pretend they don't exist. That's what I suggested counselling.

BrokenWing · 17/10/2019 20:46

He knows how he feels, if he doesn't want to put it into words or share with anyone leave him alone. Let him know you are there if he needs you but don't pressure him or tell him what you feel he should be doing.

Gingaaarghpussy · 17/10/2019 20:47

@StoutDrinker2019. Have you lost a parent or anyone close?

It's never that simple. My dad was dead 3 days after he went into hospital. It wasnt until after he died, that we discovered he had cancer.
I also had a 3 month old baby and a husband who told me, after a month, that I should be over it, cuz he knew how I felt cuz his granddad had died.
Grief is not rational, I went out on the Saturday the week after he died because, no hospital was going to ring me up and tell me he was dying.
14 years later i still can't listen to certain music, it turns me into a sobbing mess.
Nobody knows how anyone is going to grieve, we are, after all, different.
I'll get off my soap box now.

raspberryk · 17/10/2019 20:53

I don't think I have ever dealt with any kind of grief in the first 12 months.

I havent read the full thread but it might be worth looking up the Kubler-Ross 5 stages of grief. He will need to work through this and he may be stuck in one of the phases for a long time.

Mitzicoco · 17/10/2019 21:01

This is a very sad thread. OP, with the greatest respect, you need to leave him to it. When my mother died I was 'fine' to the outside world but cried myself to sleep at night. Please let him have some some space. He will come to you if he needs to.

Aridane · 17/10/2019 21:06

In the nicest possible way, back off

ChicCroissant · 17/10/2019 21:12

Is this a reverse? Either way, if the person grieving is suffering from depression a GP is the best person to speak to, but they may not want to do that. Grief is a very individual thing and attempting to get someone else to do it your way instead of theirs is never successful. There is no right and wrong way.

OP, if it is you putting pressure on your spouse (and not you being pressured to talk) then please stop, you are not helping at all and if he does want to talk he'll be less likely to approach you for fear of being railroaded into subjects he doesn't want to deal with.

2018SoFarSoGreat · 17/10/2019 21:13

I too think you have to let him be what he will be, OP

I lost my last parent earlier this year. I am still in some kind of crazy denial, I think. I can't let myself picture her (or look at pictures of her) not being in the world. Ever again.

I am bereft. Literally. I have no patience, am angry much easier than before, I find I have little energy to interact unless I must. Yes, I do put on a front for work, and can be very happy with my little ones. But that is the front. I have lost me, somewhere. Somehow. Because inside me is all coiled up, waiting / dreading having to accept this new normal.

My lovely DH is still him, being the lovely him he is. He accepts I am me, the me I am now. For now. I know it will get less horrible in time, but not yet.

Please give him time and space to be who he is for now.

MaeveDidIt · 17/10/2019 21:13

He feels how HE feels, and not how you think he should be feeling.
He might never grieve.
Or perhaps he starting the grieving process at the very beginning of their illnesses and came to terms with it by the time of their deaths.
We are all different - why would you think he should think like you do.

CallmeAngelina · 17/10/2019 21:18

I lost my dad 6 weeks ago (and my mum just over 2 years ago).
I would be extremely hacked off if my dh (or anyone) tried to force me to talk about my grief.
I'll deal with it in my own way, and his job (as mine was when his mum died) is to take his lead from me and respond if and when I ask for help.

rvby · 17/10/2019 21:24

I don't understand how it is normal or helpful to bury emotions and pretend they don't exist. In the nicest possible way, you saying this is a sign that you have limited (or, at best, very out of date) education in psychology.

You have zero idea whether he is "burying" anything. Emotions are experienced in radically different ways by different people, especially men vs. women who receive completely different "training" around emotions, how to interpret them, what to do about them, etc.

That's what I suggested counselling. A fine suggestion for the OP. She can suggest the same for her DH but it's not something she should drag him to.

PrincessHoneysuckle · 17/10/2019 21:25

Dh father died 4 years ago,when it happened it was unexpected and they were close.I tried to keep dh in the normal routine as much as possible,I didn't let him wallow or stay in bed all day which I'm still not sure whether I did the right thing in doing that.Id never dealt with a partner grieving before,he never told me how he felt about things and I never pushed him.

StCharlotte · 17/10/2019 21:25

YABU. Leave him be.

My friend and I both lost immediate family members around the same time last year. If you met me you wouldn't know. I deal with it myself and in private. My friend however pours her heart out daily on Facebook. Neither of us is wrong.

TheFaerieQueene · 17/10/2019 21:27

This isn’t about you OP. Back off.

TaffeeComeHome · 17/10/2019 21:28

You need to back off and leave him alone to deal with it in his own way OP.
Of course he won't feel like having sex, he's grieving for heavens sake!
Why don't you just ask him to put a clowns outfit on and cartwheel round the room while you're at it!
My mum died 4 years ago suddenly and i still find it incredibly difficult to talk about her to this day. I still feel like i've lost a part of me that i will never get back. Fortunately i have a very understanding husband who gave me nothing but compassion, space and understanding.

alexdgr8 · 17/10/2019 21:33

try to be a friend to your husband.
accept him how he is and where he is at the moment.
do not push him, or you might push him away. let him be.
support him with your presence and quiet affection.
do not pressurise him to talk, or be, or do anything in particular.
he needs to feel accepted, just as he is. that is what parents do for us, and that is what he has lost.
good luck to both of you.

DuMondeB · 17/10/2019 21:33

I lay on the sofa for over a year after my mum died. Piled on loads of weight too, tried to self medicate with sugar.

Things got better when spring came but the loss was profound and I’ve never been the same since - ten years later all the grief bubbled up during marriage guidance counselling - I now wish I’d spoken to a professional much earlier. I didn’t think I needed it at the time because of course I was sad at losing my mum, that’s natural, right? Still, nothing prepares you for the loss of a parent (no matter how old you are when it happens) and two in a single year must be unimaginable.

When your parents pass away it’s more than just losing them as people, it’s as if your previously solid-seeming childhood evaporated into gas - it’s the loss of ‘somewhere to go-home to’ and it’s feeling like you are properly grown up for the very first time, and it’s feeling like maybe, just maybe, you aren’t up to the task of taking on their family role,

It’s almost 15 years since my mum died and I still miss her every single day. I try to be more like her, to fill up the gaps she left behind. Sometimes, I even manage it.

Please give your husband time, try and get him to see a counsellor - I used to think it would be a massive waste of time and money but I was completely wrong. Maybe buy a SAD lamp to help him get through the winter. He won’t ever get over this, but he will be able to get back to loving you - right now he is in subconscious emotional self defence mode - shutting down everything except the absolute minimum needed to survive - ‘grief is the price we pay for love’ and right now, love seems very costly indeed.

Villageidiots · 17/10/2019 21:34

It's not all about you and I would be v hurt if my DH posted something like this about me (my DM died in Jan). Your role is to be supportive not so self-centred and judgemental

IncrediblySadToo · 17/10/2019 21:34

It’s been several years since my Dad died, suddenly and in his early 60’s. I’ll never be the person I was before he died. Your DH has lost BITH his parents in this past year. He needs space and to just ‘be’.

IF the children are suffering from a lack of his attention then yes,someone needs to talk to him, maybe a friend?, but as an adult you need to have his back and get your emotional needs met through family & friends. Right now he’s an empty vessel with nothing left to give.

Dinosauratemydaffodils · 17/10/2019 21:34

My df died last year. I have zero interest in discussing my feelings regarding that with anyone. Nothing anyone can say will bring him back. There just isn't anything to discuss.

I'm fairly sure that when dh's parents die, he will be totally different but that's okay. He's taking the lead from my grief and I'll do the same for him when it's his turn.

msmith501 · 17/10/2019 21:36

Op - it's been said in almost every post above. Your "job" is to be there with open arms, a shoulder to cry on, a sounding board for grief and most importantly... it is not about you. It will take time and you need to roll with his emotions and just be there to look around and find / pick up the pieces. One day it will be easier but it's one hell of a massive shock to lose someone close to you and right now you have a supportive role to play for as long as it takes.

PuzzledObserver · 17/10/2019 21:41

“for better, for worse” - remember that? This is one of those worse times.

Here is Cruse’s advice on how to support someone who’s been bereaved. It includes not telling them it’s time to move on and not being worried if they don’t want to talk about it.

www.cruse.org.uk/get-help/about-grief/how-to-help-someone-bereaved

DuMondeB · 17/10/2019 21:42

It felt as though all my roots had turned to sand...

This ^

The foundations that your entire life had been built on top of just fall away.

It takes ages to dig yourself new ones.

AskMeHow · 17/10/2019 21:45

I think you're being treated quite unfairly here OP.

You're obviously worried for your husband and for your marriage. You can't keep either of them going by yourself alone and your husband isn't helping you to understand what he needs from you.

Is he engaging with family life at all and your children? You haven't really mentioned that so I'm assuming it's ok on that front.

I don't think it's unreasonable for you to raise the subject though I think the suggestion by pp that you talk about it from the angle of your marriage and so on rather than his parents.

SamBeckettslastleap · 17/10/2019 21:49

I'm ten years in and only now can talk about it, can drop a name into conversation. Yabu

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