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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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BertrandRussell · 16/10/2019 12:58

What are you saying then? As far as I am aware this is the first time WellChild has made the news. Who knows? It might be good publicity for it!

LaurieMarlow · 16/10/2019 12:59

Kate talks a lot about empowering children and speaks of her own experience in this context

She has also spoken a lot about how hard she’s found motherhood and how much she’s struggled.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/gallery/2019012266924/kate-middleton-quotes-about-being-a-mum/1/%3fviewas=amp

Equally to people who have far more cause to struggle than she.

Armi · 16/10/2019 13:03

@BertrandRussell I’m getting in a tangle here! The Wellchild awards have always received press coverage due to Harry’s attendance at the events (which is the point of him being there, after all).

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/10/2019 13:04

To be fair to the Queen, I've seen pictures of her looking distraught when she visited Aberfan after the disaster in the 1960s

You're right; I confess I'd forgotten that one. She also got a lot of unfair heat for not turning up straight away, when actually her intention was said to be to avoid disruption of the search

LaurieMarlow · 16/10/2019 13:06

There's absolutely nothing to stop him, even future Kings have done it.

The Windsors in general and the Queen in particular have been hugely scarred by that event.

I don't have huge sympathy for their plight or anything, but walking away wouldn't be an easy thing to do. No point in pretending it would.

Span1elsRock · 16/10/2019 13:06

It was self indulgent.

And very inappriopriate in a room full of families who've gone through the unimaginable.

Dahlietta · 16/10/2019 13:07

The fact is he really can’t just walk away from being a royal. He and William need to take up the slack from the older Royals and the Queen.

I honestly think he really could. He could give up his place in line to the throne and go and live in America with his family and public interest in him would die down pretty quickly. He doesn't want to do that though because of the privileges he would give up, most notably having a soapbox for his inane waffling.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 16/10/2019 13:10

W&K have had their turn, I'm sure people will get back to them once her Maj passes. At the moment the spotlight is on H&M. This attempt to deflect attention away from them with this constant comparison to Royals past and present is both obvious and really tedious.

Drabarni · 16/10/2019 13:12

Of course he could walk away, and of course it would be easy.
I do think the Royals should exist, and in the whole do a good job.
However, do people really think they have anything to do with each other when they aren't being photographed together.
The young royals have no right to speak about being a parent as their staff raise their children. I find this despicable tbh.
Those "parents' see their kids when their clothes match theirs Grin

KUGA · 16/10/2019 13:16

Becoming a parent changes the way you .look at life in general.
Especially someone like Harry who`s not really in the real world and now he sees what some people endure and can empathise as he is now a father .
It made me tearful.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/10/2019 13:17

Kate has also spoken a lot about how hard she’s found motherhood and how much she’s struggled. Equally to people who have far more cause to struggle than she

I agree, and there are times when I've slated her for some of it. But while we might have to agree to disagree on this one, I'm honestly not seeing quite the same level of self-absorption ... and I certainly don't recall any blubbing over schmaltzy anecdotes

Sorry, but I really believe Harry needs to get a grip, and fast

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 16/10/2019 13:25

Some PP are going on about W&K spending large amounts of money on decorating their home as well as H&M. Could I just point out that William is going to be KING one day and is therefore higher up the pecking order than Harry. When the Queen has gone, and Williams's children are a bit older, I think you will find that H&M will fade from the scene a lot as Harry will just not be that important - think of Andrew and Edward now - they pop up at big events, but you hardly see them the rest of the time.

CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 16/10/2019 13:25

The young royals have no right to speak about being a parent as their staff raise their children. I find this despicable tbh.

It's interesting that pictures posing with baby and descriptions of his hair colour are put out to the press to raise their profile, good press and goodwill. Yet when the public feel they have a 'right' to the see christening pictures or baby pics without fingers obscuring them, 'it's back away and leave us alone' and 'Of course you have no right to see any pics'

The disparity is interesting.

EdWinchester · 16/10/2019 13:29

Their job is to wear nice clothes, smile and wave and cut ribbons. I don't want to hear their views or moans or see them crying.

I really think that a royal family in 2019 is becoming rather ludicrous.

And Gaby Roslin can sod off too.

LaurieMarlow · 16/10/2019 13:29

But while we might have to agree to disagree on this one, I'm honestly not seeing quite the same level of self-absorption ... and I certainly don't recall any blubbing over schmaltzy anecdotes

Harry does display his emotions more than Kate.

However rather than calling it self absorption, you could also attribute this to higher levels of personal empathy (which I feel he does display).

LaurieMarlow · 16/10/2019 13:31

Some PP are going on about W&K spending large amounts of money on decorating their home as well as H&M. Could I just point out that William is going to be KING one day and is therefore higher up the pecking order than Harry

Sure.

Can I additionally point out that H&M are working royals and have a very specific role in supporting the monarch.

H&M spent 2.5 million in comparison to W&K's 4.0-4.5 million (estimates appear to vary). So quite a lot less.

LaurieMarlow · 16/10/2019 13:33

Of course he could walk away, and of course it would be easy.

They've grown up with granny drilling their 'duty' into them. The family politics of standing down would be horrendous.

Though I do wish we could find a way of getting rid of them or dialling them down very significantly without causing a load of drama.

GoodGriefSunshine · 16/10/2019 13:38

Presumably because she can fit into them again. She's been criticised to fuck for not recycling clothes and now she's also being criticised for doing just that. There's literally no way for her to win here, is there?

I'll add referring to her son as a redhead to my mental list of utterly ridiculous things Meghan has been criticised for on here. Right up there with bump touching, watching Serena play tennis and holding her baby wrong.

add to that...wearing navy blue a lot, wearing too much makeup, not wearing enough makeup, not wearing tights (although there are dozens of images online of Kate and Diana not wearing tights), having thin legs, having loose hair and the latest one...wearing a coat slung across her shoulders...how very dare she....

RoseQuartzGlow · 16/10/2019 13:38

I do wonder at people going on about how easy it is to walk away. Do you know anything about history? The damage that Edward did in abdicating for Wallis Simpson is still echoing down into the present day. Although he was King the damage done was huge. William and Kate can’t carry all the duties between them. Anne is elderly and Edward and Andrew are not going to be able to carve it all up between them in the future. Andrew already does very little. It’s like being brought up to run the family firm but deciding to just piss off and leave your brother in charge. Harry has great respect for HM and no doubt feels a huge obligation to carry on for her sake. Even when she dies he will feel that on behalf of his father. It’s ingrained in them and all they know.

RoseQuartzGlow · 16/10/2019 13:39

@LaurieMarlow
Agree

merrygoround51 · 16/10/2019 13:40

Yes the Queen was upset in Aberfan but that was upset for the dead children and their families, not when she was talking about her own children.

Yes, William and Kate fly by private jet but they dont lecture the rest of the world on climate change or boast about how their number of children is the 'right' number of children. They arent woke in a showy way.

I have no doubt they are a far bigger drain on the state purse but they do the traditional royal thing far better

Cerseirys · 16/10/2019 13:40

Imagine if he did decide to give it all up and move to the US? He'd be accused of running away and shirking his family duty!

BertrandRussell · 16/10/2019 13:41

“ Yet when the public feel they have a 'right' to the see christening pictures or baby pics without fingers obscuring them, 'it's back away and leave us alone' and 'Of course you have no right to see any pics'“
This really is total bollocks. There were as many baby pictures of Archie as there were of the Cambridge children. The only difference was the godparent thing. Which presumably came from the godparents?

UpCloseAndPersonalWithGlenda · 16/10/2019 13:41

If Dim and Dimmer move the the USA I will happily give them a lift to the airport

^^ Yup.

Cerseirys · 16/10/2019 13:43

@merrygoround51 William gave a speech about how people shouldn't have too many children (for environmental reasons) while Kate was pregnant with their third...