To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

I agree that was a really good interview.

H&M did a really good job in India. But then to come back and say they need 6 weeks off? They should have kept quiet, fone their own thing and probably no one would have noticed!

Their PR person is not doing a good job

Would it be a real loss if they were hounded out of the royal family when they could do so much more positive work for the causes they highlighted in Africa? Most definitely
I suspect if that were the case then no longer being 'in' the Royal family the impact/attention would not have the desired effect for the causes.
I doubt many people would care about what they're doing.

I thought it was a good interview, I like TB as an interviewer. It illustrated that aside from anything else they’re human. Why should anybody put up with lies and the publishing of private letters.I wouldn’t in any circumstances.

Meghan reminded me of how I felt as a mum of a newborn. Smiling on the top but paddling furiously underneath. She looked truly grateful that somebody asked.I’d have wanted 6 weeks off after that with such a small baby. I’m sure some will say they were back to the board room business as normal within a month but were all different with different pressures and personalities.

And as for Meghan being controlling. She’s touchy/ feely. Many people are, can’t she be what she wants to be?

Some really nasty comments. One can’t but help think that whatever they did they’d be slated by some.

The ‘existing not living ‘ comment really grated.
I think for most of us that is reality. We have to work to survive.
They don’t have the worry of heaving a roof over their head, putting food on the table.
What do they want their lives to be like?
I was fairly neutral about the pair of them before. Now I think they need to stop feeling sorry for themselves.
Not a great PR move for them

There's an article about the doc in today's Guardian that makes me think they were watching a different programme to what the tabloids did! The lack of hysteria and hyperbole is refreshing.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/20/meghan-duchess-of-sussex-warned-tabloids-destroy-my-life

I think feeling miserable transcends all classes and wealth, all of us can feel like we’re only existing at times. I think you’re treading on dodgy ground if you start saying only some are deserving of feeling shit.

Many of us

I think an important point she made was that she expected scrutiny but she expected it to be fair. She didn’t expect untruths to be printed and repeated. Exactly what some of us on here have been saying..

I do feel sorry for them, and can’t stand and don’t click on tabloid press, but they could walk away tomorrow by stopping living off public money.

All this emoting is more £££'s for the tabloids and will just make the situation worse.
Better to have "stiff upper lip" in public, get on with their job, and privately get help, counseling, whatever they need.

If they are 'existing not living' then they also need to look internally as to why. Assuming they have no royal engagements today they have the luxury of spending their time in a beautiful home with their baby boy. They have total privacy at Windsor. Very few people are able to do this.
They are not totally birds living in a gilded cage - one of my friends saw them in restaurant during the summer having dinner together. It wasn't in the papers, so I'm sure that there are other social occasions that go unreported.

I think their tour was a great success and they came across very well. It's just a shame that they chose to make it all about them rather than the worthy causes they visited. Unnecessary and self indulgent.

If they are 'existing not living' then they also need to look internally as to why

She was pretty clear about that and the impact of the scrutiny they’re under.

She makes a very good point about the traditional British ‘stiff upper lip’ (widely advocated on here btw) and toil that takes internally.

I suspect if that were the case then no longer being 'in' the Royal family the impact/attention would not have the desired effect for the causes. I doubt many people would care about what they're doing.

Yes, I know - which is why I said it would be a shame if they were hounded out of the royal family

The tour was really good.... until the end
However without having the press on side (ie 300 odd accompanying them and reporting on their engagements) the Royals would exist in a vacuum.

I thought the interview was incredibly self indulgent.
How could M&H go from visiting girls learning self defence against rape, then moan about how they are just existing.

Yes, Wealth doesn't protect you from mental health issue and in Harry's case that is very self evident.
But they should not have chosen the background of the African tour to complain about their own suffering. But it was done for maximum publicity.

They were asked questions and the reality is millions watched to hear their answers. On the tide of that the many charities they looked at and discussed get more exposure.

I think when the Queen passes, the Royal Family should be reviewed. I think it’s served a purpose but is no longer relevant.
Charles is ok, but his brother and all that baggage?
And now Harry has confirmed a rift between him and his brother, that’s all the press will be scrutinising.
I get Harry is unhappy but I don’t think he did himself any favours with this programme.
I actually thought they did a great job in Africa but that’s all been overshadowed by this programme now.

How could M&H go from visiting girls learning self defence against rape, then moan about how they are just existing.

Because there are lots of different ways of having a tough time.

Or are you of the ‘rich people can’t be unhappy’ school of though?

Why has it been overshadowed Over?

They did a great job, full stop.

They also highlighted how feeling crap can happen to all of us however lucky in life we are, that the Eng stuff upper lip isn’t healthy. I think it’s good for teens in particular to see this. Teens are living in this Insta X factor bubble, seeing that everybody can struggle and it’s ok to admit it is a good thing.

She makes a very good point about the traditional British ‘stiff upper lip’ (widely advocated on here btw) and toil that takes internally.

I think there's a lot to be said for the "stiff upper lip" in public. She can address her emotional concerns in private. Unlike many people she can afford to pay for as much help as she needs.
Millions of people have to put their personal problems to one side while they go to work and focus on their job.

Wealth doesn't protect you from mental health issue and in Harry's case that is very self evident.

The poster is saying those words and yet it’s not factoring into their analysis of the situation whatsoever.

I usually stay away from royal threads, but the pair of them have really pissed me off. I was livid at the hypocrisy of the private flights while preaching against planet-warming lifestyles, but the latest takes the bloody biscuit.

To go to some of the poorest places in the world, where people don't have the absolute minimum needed to survive, like shelter, safe water and basic health care, and then to bleat on about how hard your comfortable and (very) affluent life is because of the nasty press is crass beyond belief.

I wish the pair of them would fuck off and live quietly abroad somewhere. Let's face it, they won't be spoiled for choice with an income of almost £6.5k a day. If not, stay here and take a leaf out of Aunt Anne and Uncle Edward's book - do your stuff, keep as low a profile as possible, and stop bloody moaning. And while you're at it, avoid any signs of conspicuous consumption, even if it does mean wearing an outfit several times!

I think there's a lot to be said for the "stiff upper lip" in public

Well that attitude has been fucking up the upper classes for centuries, but keep on advocating it

It’s all very well demarcating public/private responses, and that’s fine as far as it goes.

But are you saying they’re not allowed to respond to false information, plugged time and time again, to a susceptible public? Because that’s deeply unfair if you ask me.

I wish everyone in the RF would follow the Queen's example and not give interviews or respond to the media.

But Beer that isn’t necessarily healthy.In Meghan’s case the more she tolerates the worse it will get. There are also huge benefits in her opening up, there are none in hiding it.

If anything many teens and adults watching will think no I don’t have to plaster on a smile and trudge to school/ work feeling like shite and becoming worse I can open up. Others can be kind. We can all be kind.