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To feel really sorry for Prince Harry breaking down

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AviationLifystyle · 16/10/2019 09:56

At the awards show. I have been a little skeptical about him recently but my heart really went out to him when I saw the footage.

I have a feeling that having a child has triggered a huge amount of unresolved grief and anxiety. Now he has this dear little boy who is at the mercy of the tabloid press, as is his wife and there is little he can do to protect him.

It's time the press laid off. This is a human being breaking in front of us.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/prince-harry-wellchild-awards-speech-emotional-meghan-pregnant-tears-a9157751.html

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BertrandRussell · 17/10/2019 20:22

He was also charged with injuring a pony with his spurs. This is also very common as is overuse of the whip

SeigneurLapindeGrantham · 17/10/2019 20:51

That's sickening, poor beasts.

Grinchly · 17/10/2019 21:24

br no , one of the writers of the Sussex Instagram is remarkably similar in style to whoever was paid to write her gushing and saccharine actress blog.

I doubt either is Meghan Markle herself.

It's Hollywood self- commoditisation. Some people dislike the disconnect between celebrity try hard and royal family membership I suppose.

bluebells100 · 17/10/2019 21:33

All polo ponies are treated badly- the job is exhausting and dangerous

How absolutely disgusting. Why doesn’t the RSPCA step in. Bet they would if it was a poor mans sport.

BertrandRussell · 17/10/2019 22:14

“ br no , one of the writers of the Sussex Instagram is remarkably similar in style to whoever was paid to write her gushing and saccharine actress blog.”

I just look at the pictures! But I‘be just read a few posts and apart from a gooey Birthday one they seen all right. A bit wordy’ maybe, but nothing anyone could object to, surely?

MissEliza · 17/10/2019 22:38

Wow this thread has gone off track. That seems to be the norm for threads about H and M on MN.

imalloutofideas · 17/10/2019 22:50

I'm gonna get flamed for this but...

He's playing on it big time. I remember seeing him interviewed and he said he barely had any memories of her (Diana). And let's not forget that in his short life until her death she had travelled and been photographed alone a lot and also been associated with many men after Charles. We only saw the big photo ops like Thorpe park etc, I think it's misleading as to how close they were. I think Meghan knows that Diana captures the headlines and shes the driving force behind the constant mentions...otherwise why not let it rest.
He didn't go on about her when he was with Chelsea or Cressida and has no problems with the camera when he chooses.

Mummy195 · 18/10/2019 11:01

He was probably saying the thing about no memories out of resentment that other people get to spend up until adulthood with their mothers. He was not 4 when she died.

Diana is well known to have been very close to the boys and tried to raise them as normal as possible, but it must have been disruptive all round when she was hounded even on school runs. We won't see all pics of the family all the time, just as we don't see K&W doing school runs daily and other activities, but I'm betting they are pretty close, they sure act like it. Diana was also trying to shield the boys from the media as much as possible. You make her out to be some kind of all over the place loose woman, she was associated with about 3 men including Dodi. So that makes 4 men in her lifetime, since when is that many men?

Once more blaming MM for the Diana references. Chelsea and Cressida had no where near as much interest, publicity and vitriol. Strangely, Cressida was a wannabe actress and yet there were no pops towards her about that fact. Also, Chelsea was a hard partying girl, and you hardly see H&M in a social setting, yet they are touted as the look at me couple. I can see why he is anxious for her and his worst nightmare would be to lose her because of the media either by depression on the bullying she receives or something else.

H&M made it clear that they don't mind publicity for work / charity and don't act precious in that regard as that is what is needed and they are there for. But everyone goes home at the end of a work day to privacy and do not expect their boss to demand to see their house and children. They reasonably expected that people who like them may want to see the baby and know a bit more, hence why they created the instagram - but this has been hijacked by the media and haters, who then twist everything. The media just hating that people no longer need a middleman and can get it direct from the Sussexes.

Truth is the Sussexes no longer need the media. They made themselves redundant. They are not reporting on what they should, which is the charities. Just obsessed with senseless gossip and lies. It's not in the public interest to know if MM gets on with her father or not.

Truth is, the media should have a report on Charles and Anne on a daily basis because they do over 400 engagements p/a, and covering those charities and raising awareness on that, instead of hounding this pair and making you believe they are looking for publicity which they are not.

Blingandrings · 18/10/2019 11:24

He is on record as saying he has shut down in his feelings and memories until he started having therapy .I would guess he now think a about her a lot more and is trying to process things . He has also said I think that he felt guilty he wasn’t able to protect her when. He was a child. He now fears he can’t protect Meghan. Though she is well used to cameras and publicity.

Grumpelstilskin · 18/10/2019 13:36

@imalloutofideas Yep! 'Saint Diana took constant holidays in her later years! Even with the most charitable take on her close mothering, she was hardly around her kids, except some photo ops to present herself as mother of the year. I am not surprised Harry is a bit fucked up but the press play a far minor role and he could do with a dose of reality.

areyoubeingserviced · 18/10/2019 13:50

When Meghan agreed to marry Harry, I felt sympathy for her as I knew that the British press were going to make her life difficult.
I have just seen a clip of Meghan speaking to Thomas Bradbury. That poor woman
It is obvious that the media intrusion and the negative stories have had an adverse impact on her mental health which explains why her husband wants to protect her.
I know some posters will say that she has chosen this life, but I don’t think that anything could have prepared her for the relentless criticism of everything she does,,even patting her stomach when pregnant .
I read this thread and I am saddened by the lack of empathy from some posters who don’t want to focus on the good that these two have done.
People all over the world are interested in this Royal couple and I think that this has put a few noses out of joint.

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Babymamaroon · 18/10/2019 14:22

I think you should redirect your sympathy from a multi-millionaire spoiled little boy to say children who have cold homes, no food, are suffering abuse or terminally ill parents who have young families that have no financial cushion.

I just cannot get upset over this. Plenty of people lose their parents at a young age without a fraction of the periphery privilege Harry has had.

If he doesn't like the camera clicks, time to get out of the spotlight.

PurplePoepleEater · 18/10/2019 14:32

I have just seen a clip of Meghan speaking to Thomas Bradbury

I've just watched that. I'd been prepared to give both of them the benefit of the doubt but really I found that the clip I've seen is excruciating. It's so out of touch with the real world - this is a woman insulated from the real world, with nannies, money, PR coming out of their ears and she's complaining that no one is asking if she's OK.

Try being a single mother with no family or support scrapping by to even feed a baby.

It's so out of touch with the real world. If they feel like that they should step back from public life. They don't need to work. You don't see Prince Edward/Sophie Wessex facing this kind of stuff. They are choosing this public Instagrammy life.

timshelthechoice · 18/10/2019 14:33

Someone has been ill-advising them. She was whinging to the press again today. The pair of them are coming across as Professional Victims, very self-absorbed, First to Ever Marry and Procreate, so put upon, can't operate without being plugged into each other. They have a knack for making everything about themselves. It's really not good for their image.

Blingandrings · 18/10/2019 15:17

Just why are they doing this interview? It doesn't do them any favours at all.

PurplePoepleEater · 18/10/2019 15:25

Maybe it's just a bad clip and seeing the whole thing in context maybe better but her in the clip is just terrible. It would turn the most hardened royalist Republican.

Clip I saw is here:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7588229/Meghan-Markle-says-never-guessed-awful-tabloid-press-be.html

spaniorita · 18/10/2019 15:37

Looking at that brief interview with Meghan on insta they both seem to be really struggling. I think if that were me and my husband I would jack it in and buy a nice private home in the country.

Blingandrings · 18/10/2019 15:38

Kate has hinted at how hard she found motherhood at first, and I suspect there is a lot more to the story. She was isolated in a farmhouse in rural Wales , miles from family and friends with William at work much of the time. It can't have been easy. She didn't have a nanny at that point.
M has a nanny, can jet off anytime she wants, has friends in London and enough money to cushion any problem. It's hard to be sympathetic. She also has William and Kate not far away with their brood. Presumably she sees a fair bit of them. Harry isn't working either, in the real sense.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 18/10/2019 15:48

The pair of them are coming across as Professional Victims, very self-absorbed

It's the fashionable thing to do though, isn't it? Hmm

TBF, Kate also spoke about her challenges as a new mum, but at least she was empathising with others when she did it, in a sort of "we know what you're going through" way

Unfortunately, with these two, there's a perception of rather too much "look at meeeeee" - a perception they're doing little to change

Blingandrings · 18/10/2019 15:51

I would have thought their charity work would have put their own 'problems' in perspective really.

BertrandRussell · 18/10/2019 15:52

“ miles from family and friends with William at work much of the time. It can't have been easy. She didn't have a nanny at that point.”
Out of interest, was there some legislation or something stopping her having a nanny or two? Or popping down to see her family or bringing friends up to stay with her? Presumably for whatever reason she chose that way of life?

Blingandrings · 18/10/2019 15:57

I'm sure of course she did pop down to see her family and bring friends up to stay. I think they tried to do without a nanny for as long as they could. I'm just saying, most new mothers struggle, without all the perks the RF have.

imalloutofideas · 18/10/2019 15:57

Has anyone seen the clip of Meghan from Sunday's programme about them in Africa? You can see it on the daily mail!
Hmm....
I felt like William waited ages to propose to kate as he said at the time so she knew what she was getting into. Harry and Meghan rushed in to marriage and now she's moaning. She lives a life of utter privilege and I really don't see why she has reason to moan. She'd photographed and has been no more than Kate ever was or has been,

imalloutofideas · 18/10/2019 15:59

Lol argh hadn't read the whole thread - fail! Sorry!!!