To feel quite sorry for Carrie Symonds (Bojo girlfriend)

[Cinammoncake]

When I saw the picture of her yesterday I felt sad for her. She's still quite young and it must be very isolating being stuck with him. Plus all this Jennifer Arcuri stuff coming out. Obviously if I was her I'd ltb but I suppose that's harder to do in the public eye anyway. I wonder if she'll look back on it later and cringe.

Sitting, looking demure and dressing like Kate Middleton doesn't fool me. She is a very naughty girl and is not deserving of any sympathy. She made her bed and gets to lie in it (under that revolting man!)

Whenever I see her, all I can think of is Nikki in The Man who made Husbands Jealous. A slightly desperate blonde who gets together with the appalling Larry and instantly reinvents herself as the sensible wifey type and spends the rest of the time in grim Alice bands and ghastly floral dresses. All the ultra sensible dressing is a bit try hard. You’re banging someone else’s husband - own it!

Yes she's knows the score, what she's doing and whole game and maybe just maybe she, you know....loves him? 🤷🏻‍♀️
I know it sounds crazy but obviously plenty of women have fallen for him. He must have something they like - confidence, power - it can be very attractive to lots of people.

I really don't think we need to feel sorry for her.

genuinely interested in social and environmental issues

Right. That'll be why she chose to going into PR and start a relationship with a high-profile Tory.

She was one of the victims of the taxi driver Worboys which must have been awful. That argument she had with Boris didn't sound great either so I think on balance YABU.

He must have a massive about of charisma that doesn't show up on tv because I look at him and just think yuk!

Right. That'll be why she chose to going into PR and start a relationship with a high-profile Tory.

My understanding (again, from people who know her very well) is that she is economically very tory, and pro-brexit, but socially conscious particularly with regards to the environment. Hard for me too to square those circles but people are odd complex beings. And yes, don't forget what she went through to keep John Worboys in prison.

I don’t think he has much money.

Seriously The man is a multi-millionaire and made £450,000 from just 10 speaking engagements in the seven months before he became PM, to cite only one example.

Oh, and a quick Rightmove search of Camberwell shows plenty of house sales for £1 million and £2 million plus, so it can’t be that undesirable an area.

ColaFreezePop, remember that one of the men driving CS home at the end of the evening - when she was still in her teens - was John Worboys.

And she was brave enough to testify at his trial which can have been no picnic. I'd be worried sick if she were one of my DDs (she's barely older than they are) and I've no idea what she's up to, but I do hope she gets out unscathed when whatever it is comes crashing down.

I have wonderrd whether BJ is one of those ghastly types who resist using a condom because it takes the edge of their few seconds of pleasure. It could account for the uncertainty about the exact number of offspring.

Imagine them coming out of the woodwork one by one in years to come!

I would love to be a fly on the wall if ever she and Melinda Trump get to have a private conversation

No sympathy here for her either, I think she knows exactly what she's doing. She also knew about his wife and children.

Chancing your arm with a proven liar can only end badly. The only question is when..,,

There are some seriously beautiful parts of Camberwell. They've moved from Brunswick Park to Myatt's Fields, both of which are £££ Gorgeous period properties, nice independent cafes and lots of green space. I wouldn't say no!

She was one of the victims of the taxi driver Worboys which must have been awful. That argument she had with Boris didn't sound great either so I think on balance YABU.

Grapefruits I'm counting this as my only YANBU as I think that's what you meant?

@cinnamoncake yes you are right I think on balance yanbu

I think Carrie seems like an intelligent and sensible woman, and assume Boris and Marina were separated when the liaison began. Traditionally it was the Tories who were interested in rural areas etc. so I can believe she's the modern version of that view with the eco-stuff.

Thanks grapefruits

I agree- the argument at the flat is a factor in my thinking, as I hoped she'd get out then.

Carrie Symond's father founded the Independent newspaper. She won't be naive about the media.

Yes the reports about the argument were interesting in that she's described as telling him he didn't care about anything. You see that all the time in his public interactions - just not giving a shit about things like female MPs pleading with him to change his tone to stop encouraging abuse. He just seemed incapable of saying sorry or even grasping other people's upset at all - his only concern was to bluster his way out of it and put others down. That must be horrible to be in a relationship with.

It's sad julierat if she thinks she has a chance of changing him. Like you said, all about him. Seemingly no empathy.

Btw houses in Camberwell cost a bomb.
Houses in Brixton cost millions

She’s an adult. It’s her choice.

She'll come out of this and have a book deal, I think.

She knows full well what she's doing I'm sure; she appears rather calculating to me.
I can't begin to even imagine what she sees in him 'He's got it ' my DM would say thank heavens I don't have to worry about being with such a pompous, unedifying individual