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To think this woman needs to return to the UK?

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Hazza000 · 12/10/2019 10:38

What do you all think of the case of the American woman claiming diplomatic immunity for running down and killing that young man Harry Dunn accidentally? She has now fled the uk claiming diplomatic immunity and left a devastated family behind facing a fight for justice?

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Vilanelle · 12/10/2019 10:43

I think its disgusting, and trumps response was even worse

Sootyandsweep2019 · 12/10/2019 10:44

I think it's ridiculous, pointless and cruel to imprison people responsible for genuine car accidents, ( I'm not talking about joyriding here), and cannot say I blame her for not returning. I'd far rather we released other people serving time for momentary lapses of concentration .

Anyway, it's all academic, as I really can't see the U.S waiving immunity.

familycourtq · 12/10/2019 10:46

There have been eleventy billion threads already.

If she had any shred of humanity she would come back and face the music, regardless of the diplomatic position, but she evidently doesn't.

familycourtq · 12/10/2019 10:47

I think it's ridiculous, pointless and cruel to imprison people responsible for genuine car accidents,
I disagree.

VioletR · 12/10/2019 10:48

Accidents happen and she obviously didn't do it on purpose. That being said, she definitely should not have left!! She made things so much worse by doing that.

EleanorReally · 12/10/2019 10:49

She was driving on the wrong side of the road, she said she would remain in the country.
She needs to pay for her crime Angry

stucknoue · 12/10/2019 10:50

Why can't she just be tried in the us? She's already been done for dangerous driving there. They try to tax their citizens anywhere in the world why not prosecute?

MrsMaiselsMuff · 12/10/2019 10:51

Driving on the wrong side of the road is not an accident, it is grossly negligent.

There's also the question of whether she or her husband did have diplomatic immunity, it was suggested that they did not.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 12/10/2019 10:52

Why can't she just be tried in the us?

Because our 'special relationship' only works in one direction. Let this be a warning for anyone that thinks the US is our ally.

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Hazza000 · 12/10/2019 10:56

The family have raised over £30k by gofundme and want to raise 75k to pursue justice in the states. I hope they go all the way and get this woman back to face the music. The shame! Of course it was an accident it's the way she has just run off that sticks in the gullet. I don't know how she can live with herself.

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LoyaltyBonus · 12/10/2019 10:57

I feel very sorry for her too actually. Not as sorry as for the family obviously but it was a tragic accident that she'll live with for the rest of her life.

There is no way any country is going to waive diplomatic immunity for this. It was wrong of our politicians to hint that it might be a possibility. The whole point is that it prevents unscrupulous governments (and by that I don't mean only Middle East/Third World ones) arresting foreign diplomats and their families on trumped up charges.

I do think it would have been decent of her to meet with the family before leaving though, but I don't know if that would have been sufficient for them.

MrsMaiselsMuff · 12/10/2019 11:00

I do think it would have been decent of her to meet with the family before leaving though, but I don't know if that would have been sufficient for them.

"Sorry I messed up and killed your son, but I'm going to fuck off back where you can't touch me now."

Yes, I'm sure that would have brought much comfort to the family.

Sparklesocks · 12/10/2019 11:03

It’s absolutely horrible, that poor family.

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Hazza000 · 12/10/2019 11:04

Yes there are no winners here I also feel for the children of the American they were in the car when she hit Harry unimaginable.

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tinatsarina · 12/10/2019 11:05

We would get prosecuted over there if we drove on the wrong side of the road and killed someone but because of who her husband is she doesn't have to face justice. It's not fair to the family. Like others have said it's not an accident it was negligent.

KUGA · 12/10/2019 11:08

Wonder what Trumpaty Trump would do if the boot was on the other foot ?.
It`s a bloody disgrace.
That poor family has to live with that forever.
She needs to be brought to justice end of.

LoyaltyBonus · 12/10/2019 11:10

It would be the same if "we" were married to a diplomat though tinasarina. As I said, it's to protect diplomats and their families from effectively being kidnapped. They can't waive this one or a precedent would be set. I was very wrong for the family to be led to believe anything different was possible.

I also wonder who is advising them on the possibility of a civil case, I hope they're not being exploited because diplomatic immunity applies in civil cases too.

In that case MrsMaisel, she did the only thing she could do - probably on the instruction of/with the support of her government.

Pinkginhelps · 12/10/2019 11:28

This woman will live with this for the rest of her life as will her children. Bringing her back or putting her in prison will achieve nothing other than making lawyers richer and another prisoner will be burdening uk tax payers. Her children will then not have a mother along with living with the memory of what happened and knowing the mother they love is responsible. Much as I understand the boy's family's anger and need for retribution, they won't feel better if she is dragged back. This is a distraction from them beginning to grieve and move forward. They'll NEVER get over the loss of their beautiful son. Vengeance won't help. Perhaps the money raised could pay for the boy's family to fly to the states and sit with the woman who killed their son and a mediator and talk to her about how they feel and give her the chance to apologise.

slashlover · 12/10/2019 11:29

Do you REALLY think anyone is going to say YABU?

Boysey45 · 12/10/2019 11:32

She wont be held to account or brought back so the family absolutely need to get their head round this. They are wasting their time trying to get her to return.
I remember when that young policewoman was shot dead by someone inside the Iranian Embassy, whilst she stood outside. They all walked away and flew home. Nothing happened and that was no way an accident like this.
I feel sorry for the family and for the US womans family as well as its not their fault either.
Donald Trump is a just a disgrace for being so dismissive.

HisBetterHalf · 12/10/2019 11:34

Disgusting. I hope her guilt eats her alive

Greywalls12 · 12/10/2019 11:35

@slashlover some posters HAVE already said that

stophuggingme · 12/10/2019 11:36

@Pinkginhelps so by that logic we should be handing out apologies rather than prison se fences to killer sbe suse that’s what this woman is.

It elitist snobbery snd madness. This woman is escaping justice because her President considers himself above the Law. It is an outrage.

stophuggingme · 12/10/2019 11:37

Fucking typos

SouthWestmom · 12/10/2019 11:37

So if she wasn't a diplomats wife it would still be ok? Maybe we should just stop applying the law of people are so blasé about it.

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