To be annoyed at people who live in a London Borough but insist they don't (i.e Im in Surrey, Kent etc)

[Rosehip10]

As in people in places such as Richmond, Kingston (insisting they live in Surrey) or places such as Bromley (insisting they are in Kent).

These places may used to have in a different county but have been part of greater London and a London Borough since 1965.

Is is snobbery? They usually drone only about postal towns which also no longer exist.

so someone who lives in Dublin can say they live in the UK as it was part of it prior to 1922?

They are unlikely to say that given the political relationship between the two countries and because nobody talked about the UK until recently.

However, if in a hundred years there were some non political word for the British Isles like Scandinavia, they might say that they lived there, regardless of whether that area was made up of one, two or several nation states.

The Earl of Wessex certainly seems able to claim to be Earl of an area that can be defined, but that has no administrative meaning.

@mrex Thanks for not answering the question on the specific example I have given about Dublin.

I guess anyone can say they live anywhere. It's a free country with free speech. Doesn't make it factually correct.

Any of your other examples are not about posting and are therefore irrelevant to me.

But the Royal Mail database isn't only used for posting letters and parcels via Royal Mail.

But the Royal Mail database isn't only used for posting letters and parcels via Royal Mail

Which still doesn't change that when addresses are being used for posting RM database is the definitive answer. Just because it is use for other purposes doesn't stop it being correct when use for its primary purpose.

Just because it is use for other purposes doesn't stop it being correct when use for its primary purpose.

But they are selling it for other purposes.

We will have to agree to disagree about how much they care about people who include their county on their addresses - although clearly I have to agree that you care a great deal.

but I think it is relevant that the information the database is misleading.

We will have to agree to disagree about how much they care about people who include their county on their addresses - although clearly I have to agree that you care a great deal

I don't doubt that I care more than the do!

than the do!

than they do I mean

We also know that London SE17 is randomly between SE1 and SE5

That's because, apart from the central postcodes ending in 1 (W1, E1 etc) and the EC postcodes, the London postcodes are alphabetical, not geographical.

Eg. SW2 Brixton, SW3 Chelsea, SW4 Clapham, SW5 Earls Ct, SW6 Fulham and so on.

I have a list of all of them somewhere. I really need to get out more!

I've always lived in South London (SW postcode). In recent years I moved to a different South London borough, again with an SW postcode.

SW is a strange one because many SW postcodes are not in South London. Fulham, Chelsea, Knightsbridge, Westminster, Victoria, all have SW postcodes.

@Lifecraft - how did I never know they were alphabetical?!? That's great info.

@Rosehip10 - because I have a toddler who needed a walk (and now needs some help to not distribute his food too far around the kitchen)! I was being simplistic, but there's something in the question about cultural roots. Dublin being in Ireland / Great Britain / Republic of Ireland means everyone stuck with the original "Ireland" term. It would be fascinating to track which place names have disappeared and why.

SW postcodes - They're south of Piccadilly circus, isn't eros always the heart?

Eg. SW2 Brixton, SW3 Chelsea, SW4 Clapham, SW5 Earls Ct, SW6 Fulham and so on.

But SW13 Barnes? SW11 Battersea?

But SW13 Barnes? SW11 Battersea?

Oh bugger. I really wanted that to be true!

It is true up to a point but there are too many areas beginning with B to follow through with it.

Yes, Rightmove seem to use the Royal Mail database and it is misleading.

But they can’t be because as said many times on here by Dappled the RM data base doesn’t include counties.

Phone number dialling codes are alphabetical though, before the 01 was inserted though.

01224 for Aberdeen and 01935 for Yeovil.

But they can’t be because as said many times on here by Dappled the RM data base doesn’t include counties.

It includes Post Code Area and Post Town. These are dictated by Royal Mail sorting policy, and are not a guide to the nearest city or town.

Administrative counties are not cultural or traditional ones, or those used in cricket. OP is unreasonable in the view that it is snobbery, just tradition.

I live in Middlesex. It happens to be a London Borough. Simples.

But SW13 Barnes? SW11 Battersea?

Oh bugger. I really wanted that to be true!

It is true. The SW postcodes have 2 runs, SW2 Brixton to SW10 Worlds End. Then SW11 Battersea to SW19 Wimbledon. SW20, Raynes Park, I think was a late addition.

NW2 Dollis Hill, NW3 Hampstead, NW4 Hendon, NW5 Kentish Town, NW6 Kilburn, NW7 Mill Hill. And so on.

Will have to find the list.

I live in Middlesex. It happens to be a London Borough. Simples.

Can't be that simples, as you've got it wrong. You don't live in Middlesex, no one does. Because it doesn't exist.

SW postcodes - They're south of Piccadilly circus, isn't eros always the heart?

Fact is, lots of areas in West London and Central London have an SW postcode, despite not being in SW London.

28Lifecraft

Oh good

@UnoriginalUserName948

Your map must work really weirdly if that's the case, especially as both Rainham and Gidea Park are both closer to Central London if go as the crow flies.

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