To be annoyed at people who live in a London Borough but insist they don't (i.e Im in Surrey, Kent etc)

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As in people in places such as Richmond, Kingston (insisting they live in Surrey) or places such as Bromley (insisting they are in Kent).

These places may used to have in a different county but have been part of greater London and a London Borough since 1965.

Is is snobbery? They usually drone only about postal towns which also no longer exist.

@GPatz, didn't realise the London numbers started at Ewell as use so few landlines now. I'd still have said that was Surrey. You definitely sound in Surrey now.

Why do you care?

@TomHagenMakesMyBosomTrembleomHagen Yes, we were surprised when we got it!

I used to live in Guildford. At no point ever did I think that was even vaguely London.

I love that some people are getting so irate about including counties in postal address. Every single form I fill out online has a space for county. It might not be needed but everyone still uses it.

I can see that I'm not alone in being annoyed by people who say 'I'm from Laaaandannnn' when actually they live in Bromley. But then I was born and bred in Zone 1, we considered zones 1-3 as London and 4 onwards were basically another country

Every single form I fill out online has a space for county. It might not be needed but everyone still uses it.

I don't, I put N/a if it's a free text box. If it's a drop down I put Kent and scowl at it.

@RoseQuartzGlow - I know someone who did that. She's an Effingham/Mole Valley girl & told all her uni friends she was from South London. Bit of a moment when a few of us pitched up to visit and it became very clear she was from Surrey. Not even the London borders.

In have a post code that is considered London by insurance companies for some reason I dont live in London. The Greater London Border is about a mile away. I live in Herts.
Dd has travelled a bit and tends to tell people she is from London because nobody has heard if our town. In US she met a girl who also said she was from London, drilled down a bit and turned out she was originally from our town and knew many people in common. Also turned out to be related to my old childminder.

Well we live in Barnes which is London SW13. We’re 10-12 min walk to Hammersmith tube which is Zone 2. However, we are in the “London Borough of Richmond-upon-Thames”. When I go into Richmond (15 min drive away) the town of Richmond itself is actually in Surrey. I would drive down the Lower Richmond Road through Sheen, but Sheen is SW14. So god knows where the official London / Surrey border is? It’s not as if there is one of those signs as Sheen becomes Richmond - “Welcome to Surrey.” Also, Richmond feels like London because it’s on the District Line.

So I guess what I’m saying is, perfectly possible for someone living in Richmond, Surrey (as it is generally known) to also describe themselves as living in London because they are, in fact, in the same London borough as me. The fact is they live in both.

Is it snobbery @Tom? I don't really understand. I don't live in London myself so don't understand why someone would want to say they were living there if they weren't.

In what way do people in Richmond borough also live in Surrey, other than it feels quite a lot like Surrey when you are there (which I agree it does).

Surrey is a legal entity with legally defined boundaries. It doesn’t include Richmond.

Bromley is an interesting example be a it's a huge borough. You can be way out in the countryside and be in Bromley or also be right on the Lewisham/Bromley border and feel like you are very much in London.

Fast - because Richmond is in Surrey. It’s known as Richmond, Surrey and is part of that county. But it’s also part of the London Borough which I live in.

*because

Also, if you go over the bridge from Richmond you are suddenly in Twickenham, Middlesex. I have never understood Middlesex tbh, as it doesn’t even show on maps.

Oh ok, just found this with a quick Google. It seems that Richmond has been officially classed as London since 1965! So there you go - every day is a school day. I wonder where the official Surrey border would be then? What about places like Petersham and Ham a bit further out down the river but on the Richmond side?

And what about Kingston? I guess that’s not Surrey either then as it’s the “London Borough of Kingston-upon-Thames?”

No, not at all. Richmond isn’t in Surrey. If you scroll down on this link there is a list of all the boroughs within Surrey, as controlled by Surrey CC. The town of Richmond isn’t in any of them, because Richmond isn’t in Surrey. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrey

Yes but you can see why people would be confused because although Kingston is not listed there as a Surrey borough, it is stated as the “Admin HQ” of Surrey

Yes it’s confusing especially if you’ve been raised as I have to think of Kingston etc as Surrey! And of course they don’t feel in any way London. Colloquially everyone would know what you mean.

Richmond feels like London now. It’s not really the leafy distant outpost anymore. I live in West London and can get a tfl red bus to Richmond from where I live.

If Kew Gardens is regarded as being in London it’s pretty difficult to argue Richmond isn’t.

@magicpaintbrush

Oh so we are going on what some lifestyle magazine says now? The places you mention were in Kent but since 1965 have been in London.

@samcro

No it wasn't. It changed in 1965.

It’s funny because when I occasionally go to the Kingston Bentall Centre, I always feel likeIn driving out into Surrey because I go down the A3. And I always thought Richmond was officially in Surrey, but in the part of Surrey that is also within Greater London. I’ve always just thought this

So I guess Twickenham is still London as well then? And Heathrow airport?

@parisa5 the town of Richmond is in the London borough of Richmond, the same as Barnes, not surrey.