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To think people are so mean about ginger hair!

135 replies

Mopmum35 · 30/09/2019 15:05

So why are people so mean and disrespectful of people with ginger hair?

It really upsets me.
What is wrong with ginger hair?
The amount of people that take the piss is shocking! I'm not ginger but it still gets on my wick. It's sad. Does anyone agree?

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DdraigGoch · 01/10/2019 00:43

I expect nothing less than depraved comments from teenage boys. I am however astonished that adult men think it is acceptable to ask a child about their private parts.

Sashkin · 01/10/2019 00:55

I'm a red-head, and it is probably better now than it used to be! The worst was the full grown men asking me what colour my pubes are, which was a very regular occurrence from the age of 12 or 13

Yep, same here. And the man who shouted at me completely unprompted in the street (aged about 12 and in school uniform), saying he bet my mum wished she'd had an abortion instead of an ugly ginger bitch daughter, he must have been in his forties and was in a suit.

It does seem to be a certain type of person. DS has beautiful curly strawberry blond hair, he looks like a little cherub. And in Canada I get people in the street stopping me to say what beautiful hair he has and isn't he an adorable little boy. In the UK, I get "oh dear, I hope he doesn't grow up to be ginger!" Fucked up.

Sashkin · 01/10/2019 01:04

Absolute best though was some African bloke in his sixties, who clearly had some mental health issues, who tried to exorcise the "Red Devil" (me) on the bus to work one morning. Shouted biblical verses, told the demon to be cast out in the name of the Lord, etc. All very loud, continued for the entire 20mins bus journey without a break. Luckily I had headphones. And I had some bad reactions to my hair when I worked in Tanzania.

So it's not universally liked overseas (seen as demonic or associated with witchcraft in various cultures, apparently associated with prostitution in Tanzania, though I have no idea how that would have arisen because there must only be about three gingers in the entire country).

Blobfish1 · 01/10/2019 01:11

Well when I was in primary school, the bullying started, but I just didn't take the bait. Copper knob, carrot face, ginger minger, ginger pubes. Also had the ' Christ I hope my baby isn't ginger, I'll drown it if it is'. People are just so nasty! My best friend who wasn't ginger, but a little bit plump, was also tortured, but she just couldn't handle it at all and spent all our school years in tears. One of my worst episodes that did upset me was when I met a lad in a night club, we got on really well, had a great night dancing and laughing together. He asked to see me again, I was so happy and excited. I met him a few days later, it was daylight and when he saw me he said, 'fuck, you'r a ginger
I thought you were blonde! Nah, I'll never live it down.' And I was dumped, there and then! Hahaha, his loss. Mind you, I've also had some pretty amazing comments too, which is lovely. So I think you either love us or hate us. My two kids, don't take after my hair colour, my daughter would love ginger hair but my son 14, teases me all the time about being ginger, it's obviously a topic amongst his mates. We have a good laugh over it, but he sends me masses of stuff relating to online ginger abuse. But of course, ginger were considered very bad luck, we'd be brought in so our skin could be searched for the mark if the devil, maybe an odd freckle or 2! Then that was the proof that we were witches and banshees and the punishment was to be burned at the stake or drowned. Yes, definitely mixed blessings!😂 And of course I have the added bonus of being Welsh! A double whammy when it comes to being abused!
Welsh, Ginger and Proud!🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

tweedledeedo · 01/10/2019 01:16

@NotTonightJosepheen 🤔 so you don't know what all these people are on about and you gave them a "foxy" nickname? 👍🏼 ok then

Gingerkittykat · 01/10/2019 01:30

Is it more of an English than Scottish thing? I've seen Alan Carr and other comedians being horrible about gingers.

My ex had a horrible time at school for being ginger, but DD and DSS have never had a problem. There is loads of gentle ribbing in the family about gingers, mainly from other gingers but never any nastiness. An example would be posting a picture of factor 50 on FB with #gingerlife or something similar.

Brassbedpost · 01/10/2019 01:34

My dd has red hair and everyone seems to feel the need to comment on it. Even if it's complimentary it gets on my nerves people can't not say something drives me potty Hmm

NotTonightJosepheen · 01/10/2019 01:53

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doskant · 01/10/2019 02:07

I never understood it either. Ginger hair is the absolute bomb! Ginger hair and freckles are perfection 👩🏻‍🦰

FunkyKingston · 01/10/2019 02:15

A vestige of anti Irish and anti Scottish bigotry.

The negative trips associated with ginger hair, short tempered, impetuous and sexually libidinous are stereotypes associated with the Scots or Irish, which have the highest concentration of redheads.

Mopmum35 · 01/10/2019 08:24

Gosh so it seems to be the same repetitive shit then! But just no need for it what so even, I dont understand how someone calling someone ' copper knob, ginger minger ect' will make them feel a sence of goodness🤦‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ so so quite alot of you had the pubes comment by olden men😥 discusting, I wonder how many of them have ginger children I reckon a few😁 fuckers.
@Sashkin wow! I would of been scared, did no one say anything ? @Blobfish1 omg what an absolute knob head! Well like you said his loss.
My dh got it all the time in school out of school child adult, but luckly he stood up for himself but that did get him into trouble, and the actual troublemakers walked off Scott free! I'm glad some of you and your dc get positive comments 😁 really interesting reading all the posts... oh and stick with be ginger aswell! My dh has never dyed his hair and never will😁

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Mopmum35 · 01/10/2019 08:26

*what so ever not even

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Mopmum35 · 01/10/2019 08:34

@PullingMySocksUp wow that is shocking, they just dont care at all. Cheeky fuckers. Having ginger hair doesn't make that person not pretty! She sounds like a vile person. She seems very ugly on the inside. My youngest dd have very blonde hair I really wouldn't be bothered if it looked slight red in a photo 🤦‍♀️

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Ohyesiam · 01/10/2019 08:35

The dickheads who can no longer publicly be racist or xenophobic are running out of people to abuse so gingers are one of the few groups that can get abused and insulted by them and get away with it

I came on to say exactly this.

My sister had( before we both went grey) the most gorgeous dark aubergine hair. I’ve just asked her if she got hassled in the 70s at school.
She says she got lots of complements, so maybe this ginger shaming is a newer thing? But also she’s not strictly ginger , but bullies and dickheads never did get hung up on accuracy.

She has also just said that when I was about 10, I admiringly compared the colour of her leg hair to our hamsterBlush.

fluffiphlox · 01/10/2019 08:39

I had auburn hair and still do though at 60+ it is chemically assisted. I was never badly teased for it and in my twenties was asked more than once by strangers what colour I used! Embrace the red I say!

ColdNovemberRain · 01/10/2019 08:55

I suffered hugely through school due to my red hair. I was both verbally and physically bullied almost every day which included being randomly punched in the face, pushed down a flight of stairs and pushed into the road into oncoming traffic. Other kids would refuse to share desks with me because they "might catch the ginger disease" and the teachers would laugh along with them. Any time I'd be anything less than relentlessly cheerful, I'd be labelled "ginger winger". I had a teacher, a grown, educated man; say to the whole class that he hated teaching gingers - we were ugly and made him feel sick. When I was 16, I was asked out by a really popular boy at school. I had harboured a crush on him for about 4 years and we had a two week relationship which made me feel like the happiest person on earth. Then he dumped me abruptly because he couldn't handle the slagging off he was getting for dating a ginger.

My teenage diaries form that time were full of how I hated myself and my life because of my hair. I once went to our year head because the bullying was too much and was told that if I really had a problem with it, then I should dye my hair. My refusal to dye obviously meant that I actually enjoyed the attention. the truth was that despite the crap I was putting up with, I actually loved my hair. I used to look in the mirror and think the colour was amazing and not understand why it provoked hatred in others. Plus my parents would never have allowed me to dye it anyway.

You would think this would stop in adult life but now I have to put up with every friend and colleague who is pregnant, making jokes about how they hope it's not a ginger and then looking at me with an embarrassed apology.

Mopmum35 · 01/10/2019 09:39

@ColdNovemberRain that is just dreadful, all because of your hair colour, how disgusting those bullies were I hope they have had a bad life and plenty of miss fortune, the teachers should of protected you! Not joined in, ( my dh had similar)THIS is exactly what I mean, this is the reason for my post, innocent kids and adults are getting bullied mentally, emotionally and physically, its abuse! WHY WHY WHY is it so acceptable? We don't tolerate child abuse, we dont tolerate domestic violence or racism these are not acceptable but yet the abuse to someone with ginger hair is acceptable? Fucked up really is. It's not just by kids it's by professionals, mothers, fathers ,friends ( so called) ...strangers, it's in the soaps, in films, comedy sketches and even bloody family take the piss. I'm so sorry @ColdNovemberRain I'm glad your pround of your hair you keep going! Smile my dh also got alot of shit... and all because of a hair colour/ skin colour its pathetic and beyond meSad

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Alexandrite · 01/10/2019 09:45

Is it more of an English than Scottish thing?
No, i wouldn't say it's as clear cut as that. Someone started a thread about their son being bullied for ginger hair a few weeks ago and they were in Scotland. We are South of London and dd has never had a problem. She's in her second year of high school at the local comp.

ColdNovemberRain · 01/10/2019 10:20

No it's not clear cut. I'm in Scotland and every instance of bullying that I've mentioned happened in a Scottish primary and secondary school (more so secondary).

Thank you @Mopmum35 for your kind words

NewFoneWhoDis · 01/10/2019 11:33

I'm light ginger and DS has his paternal granny's colouring - rich auburn, creamy skin with a little dusting of freckles and the most gorgeous eyes - greeny-brown and framed with lashes so long they almost look cartoonish. He's a little stunner. He will probably go darker haired when he's grown up but his granny's side of the family are all gorgeous so he should keep his good looks.

He's not got teased or bullied about it yet in school but it's a lovely small village school and they have a very pro-active anti-bullying programme, so I'd say if any teasing went on it would be nipped in the bud fairly quickly.

Mopmum35 · 01/10/2019 11:43

@ColdNovemberRain your welcome.
@NewFoneWhoDis he sounds adorable Smile

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Countryescape · 01/10/2019 20:47

Where I’m from ginger hair isnt exactly sought after and people so ridicule “gingers” and numerous times I’ve heard people say they don’t want a ginger baby. I personally have no issue with any hair colour, not sure why people would.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 01/10/2019 20:52

I don’t have much as a child and just twice as an adult.

Once I was so pissed I roared with laughter, and the second time it was two idiot men who ran away when I wheeled round and bellowed in their stupid faces ‘you what? you fucking what...???’. But then I am from Glasgow, and my accent...

31weeksgone · 01/10/2019 21:33

But it’s just taken as ok to joke about, there’s a thread this very minute in active about “gingers” ffs Confused

31weeksgone · 01/10/2019 21:34

(I clearly don’t think it’s ok to joke about)