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AIBU to ask why some people fail to make changes in their lives even when they know that those changes are necessary?

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AlexaShutUp · 29/09/2019 15:45

I'm wondering why so many of us are unable to make the changes that we need to make in our lives, and what exactly differentiates those who are able to implement those changes from those who are not?

Is it a lack of willpower? Inertia? Habit? Resistance to change? Fear? Lack of motivation? Something else?

Why do people continue to eat crap even when they know what constitutes good nutrition? Why do people fail to exercise regularly when they know it's good for them? Why don't people smoke or drink too much when they are fully aware of the health risks? Why do they fail to tidy up their messy houses, even when the chaos is getting them down?

I am not judging anyone btw. I am very guilty of this kind of behaviour myself, and I guess that's why I'm asking the question? What is it that stops so many people from making the changes that they know they need to make? Why do some people not seem to struggle against those obstacles? And how can those of us who do struggle get past whatever it is that is stopping us?

Has anyone ever struggled to make changes but suddenly found a way to make it happen? If so, I'd love to know what changed for you in order to make this happen.

OP posts:
AlexaShutUp · 29/09/2019 17:57

Focus on your own answers as to why you can't.

Mummy, that's a very fair point, but I guess my problem is that I haven't yet been able to figure out my own answers.Confused

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Camomila · 29/09/2019 17:59

I was also naturally good at most
school work, luckily I was really unmusical (did choir and played the flute poorly - wanted to do school concerts with my friends) and have dyspraxia (the 90s solution was gymnastics classes)

For all my hardwork though I've never done well career wise. I think I lack that competitive edge some people have but have never quite figured out how to get it.

halloumi2019 · 29/09/2019 18:02

Mental health issues or low self esteem? Trauma from past experiences?

AlexaShutUp · 29/09/2019 18:05

Halloumi, I do think poor mental health or low self esteem might be a part of it in my case, but it's a vicious circle, isn't it? I suspect my mental health would be a lot better if I exercised more regularly, ate better, kept the house tidier etc, but at the moment, I seem to lack the motivation to do those things.

I'm quite taken with the idea of prioritising one thing in the first instance, like sleep, to see if that makes it easier to make changes in other areas.

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IronicalCallSign · 29/09/2019 18:07

A huge part is environmental.

E.g. eating healthy.

It's not so much a personal fail for some people.
I've seen people literally unable to make the leap into eating better despite higher than average levels of determination because of factors they simply cannot control:

  • other family member does food shopping and disagrees with/doesn't understand what food to buy
  • shift working meaning it's hard to prepare a healthy nutritional breakfast in the quiet so as not to disturb others sleeping at 3am
  • financially, it's hard to bulk buy good protein like meat because you just don't have the spare cash to lay out in advance, even if it's cheaper in the long run
  • you sit next to the "oh it's only 1 slice/"you can start your diet tomorrow"/"but I baked this cake for charity, you mean thing" saboteur at work
... And so on.

A lot of the self help industry berates us for failing as individuals despite 90% of the variables influencing our choices being fairly outside our control.

Short of making even more drastic changes in our lives (dumping an unsupportive partner, changing jobs, moving home, coming into more money...etc) it's virtually impossible to change. And the ones who can are the rare few for whom their willpower has somehow offset the powerful forces acting against them from all sides.

crosser62 · 29/09/2019 18:07

I had a big slap in the face philosophical moment.

I had my 2nd child aged 43. I calculated the future.
I saw obesity, diabetes, arthritic joints, breathlessness and chronic illness as I age with my young child.

So I changed.
I have embraced a vegan diet (plant based not vegan per se)
I don’t drink alcohol, I’ve upped my steps per day.
I fall off the wagon every now and again, but still see the long term.

God, I don’t want to be an old dear when my boy is a teenager, I don’t want him to be my carer or worried about me keeling over when he is 16 years old.
So that’s what did it for me.
I’m still fatter than I should be, but feel great... mostly.

Difficultcustomer · 29/09/2019 18:13

I’m full of excuses for being overweight. At the moment I just don’t see the point. I have nothing to work towards.

Doingtheboxerbeat · 29/09/2019 18:16

Because it's hard work, like really hard and I need a very practical reason to stop /start something. Giving up smoking was easy because when I lost my job and had no money to survive let alone smoke. But exercise and eating less was easy because I had no money live on so I had to walk /cycle everywhere and had no money for food!!!

Camomila · 29/09/2019 18:21

I do find healthy meal planning tricky when everyone in the family has such different needs.
DH - office job, dad with t2 diabetes, could do with loosing a couple of kg.
Me - either pg, or breastfeeding the last 4 years and needing lots of calories
DS - has tea at nursery, sometimes is full and sometimes wants a 2nd dinner
Next yr will have new baby as well and weaning to do again.

Phineyj · 29/09/2019 18:29

There are some useful tips from behavioural economics that can help with motivation. One is to tell everyone your goal and then they keep reminding you. So I told my students I was giving up sugar in my coffee and they would say 'I hope that doesn't have sugar in it!' when they saw me with coffee. Another is choice architecture - if you don't want someone to choose something, don't make it available. So I don't have biscuits in my house as I have no self-control with them. Basically, if you want to change, inform yourself on human psychology and set yourself up to succeed.

I also changed my job to one I could only get to by public transport.

I am not slender, but probably slightly less tubby and much fitter than I would have been if I'd left it up to willpower.

Sparklywolf · 29/09/2019 18:35

For me life is spent firefighting various crises and although making lifestyle changes are on my ever-growing to do list they never make it high enough to be actioned.

That and life is exhausting, especially with a chronic medical condition and I just don't have the mental or physical energy to address anything but the most urgent needs.

WalkiesPlease · 29/09/2019 18:37

I've been doing a lot of thinking about this recently! There is so much in my life that I want to change; job, weight, friends, financial situation, but I seem to find myself falling into the same comfy but miserable rut where I stay at home watching Netflix, binge-eating and then dreading the moment where Monday comes around again. I don't know why I do that, maybe it's because the thought of change and the unknown is so uncomfortable and the idea that it might not pay off is so depressing that I'd rather stay in an unsatisfying but reassuring bubble.

I've been watching a lot of TED talks recently and I've come to the conclusion that I'm never going to want to take the steps to improve my life, I just have to do them. Apparently 90% of our thoughts we have today, we'll also have tomorrow, so if I keep telling myself that I'm fat, lazy and miserable, I'll keep being fat, lazy and miserable. Recently I've been acting on impulses and doing things immediately, even if I don't want to. Apparently if you don't "take action" within 5 seconds of deciding to do something, you probably won't do it. It's not a case of being motivated, it's forcing yourself to do something that will make you miserable, on the offchance that it will pay off sometime in the future. Grin

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 29/09/2019 18:44

I think (for me anyway), the change seems so big, so insurmountable, that it's easier to put off dealing with it.

Yes I should break it down into bite size pieces, yes I know that will help. But still...

That said I can suddenly leap into action on other things. It's inexplicable!

jennymanara · 29/09/2019 19:13

I remember thinking at 16 years old that I did not understand why anyone did anything that was bad for their health. I was naive Life is often tough. Forget about big trauma, just wrestling a couple of toddlers through the day can be tough.

palahvah · 29/09/2019 19:23

Any/all of the below. Human beings have a natural bias towards achieving short term pleasure/mental or physical comfort or safety/avoiding harm. Behavioural economics explains this.

The Power of Habit and The Chimp Paradox are good reads on this.

NaviSprite · 29/09/2019 20:02

I had this thought process when I found out I was going to be a mum a couple of years ago and honestly up until that point, I thought I wanted to change all the time, but that thought was always fleeting and I was a massive flake about it.

Example: I was quite overweight, I wasn’t classed as obese but was approaching it fast, I hated myself when I was walking up a hill to work or had to walk to the top floor and got horribly hot/sweaty/out of breath and in those fleeting moments I swore to every God I could name (atheist so the irony is strong with this one hmmmm!) I was going to change...

But instead I changed the direction I took to work to make it easier on my legs, started taking the lift at work to avoid the embarrassment of the stairs. Instead of focusing on the one true way to improve myself I looked to make changes to everything else so I wouldn’t have to (if that makes sense?). I think this is innate within most humans, rather than change ourselves we would rather change something outside of ourselves so we don’t feel quite as shit?

Well when I found out I was pregnant I quit drinking and smoking, the moment the test said positive, that was easy as I was only a light smoker and had already lost interest in drinking after suffering with two years of really poor health.

I changed my diet because I had been told I’d likely never have children and didn’t know if that pregnancy was my one and only shot - I did it for baby (or as it turned out at my first scan - babies!).

Really only when I started thinking about them and putting their health ahead of my own could I break out of my negative cycles.

I now practice moderation to the best of my ability as I managed to lose weight with the pregnancy (because my body was struggling to maintain the twins due to medical issues of mine) and I want to keep myself healthy for them. I don’t want to live forever and I certainly don’t want to be so rigid with being healthy/active etc that I miss out on actually living. But I’ve finally found a balance that’s working well enough I think?

It’s a deeply personal question that only can be truly answered by people on an individual basis I think. I smoked when I was stressed from other health issues, did I know it was bad for me? Of course I did, but when compared to everything else happening at the time, the future consequences to my smoking were a much lesser concern than what I was facing at that time. Life is a series of risk assessments was a quote a teacher gave to me many years ago, we find it easier to risk assess in the moment than in a theoretical future.

museumum · 29/09/2019 20:11

Humans only have a certain amount of emotional energy. Stress really uses it up, the more stressed you are the less will power you have.
Some choices don’t take will power (where I live parking is difficult and expensive so leaving the car begindxisnt will power it’s common sense). Others do take will power (eg to say no to cake if you like it and everyone else in the office is serving and eating it).
I strongly believe everyone has a vice - food, drink, spending, laziness, mess, something - nobody has full control 100% of the time.

SoyDora · 29/09/2019 20:18

GetOffTheTableMabel that’s interesting. I’m convinced my biggest issue in life is lack of sleep. I’ve had three children who have all been appalling sleepers (8 month old DS has already been up 3 times since 7pm and will be up at least 6 more times before morning) but actually my biggest issue is severe insomnia. Even when DH does the night shift I’m awake most of the night. I’m too exhausted to move most of the time.
Fear of failure resonates too though. And also the fear that I’ll make the changes I think I need to make to be happy, but I still won’t be happy.

MsAwesomeDragon · 29/09/2019 20:19

OP it may well be that time is just an excuse, but it feels like a really insurmountable problem to me right now.

I did also fully admit that I am a massive emotional eater, just eat away those negative feelings. If I've had a shit day at work I can deal with that by eating a big bag of crisps and some chocolate in the car on the way to collect the kids. What I CAN'T do in the car on the way to collect the kids is exercise, meditate, talk it through, basically any healthy way of dealing with having had a shit day at work. I also can't be late collecting dd2 because she would be sad, the cm would be upset with me, it would throw out the timings of the rest of the evening, etc. I also can't leave work earlier because I need to get the work done. So dealing with those negative emotions (I've had a lot of those in the past year as we've had some big things to get through as a family) ends up being with junk food in the car.

I suspect a lot of people are similarly emotional eaters, dealing with negative emotions in a quick, but ultimately harmful way. Plenty of people eat junk, have too much to drink, binge watch TV, have a phone addiction, gambling addiction, etc as a coping mechanism to deal with the bad/stressful stuff that's going on in their lives.

I would love the answers to how to break those habits and how to free up more time for the good habits. I don't have them. The idea of getting more sleep as mentioned up thread seems like a great place to start tbh. I am going to try it, starting tonight I will be in bed by 11pm and no later.

BertieBotts · 29/09/2019 20:32

I have ADHD. Didn't know until I was 25, undiagnosed until 27. This makes habit building even harder and it's so so frustrating and demotivating. If you have other issues than motivation and habit building e.g. disorganisation, poor time management, poor impulse control, sleep problems, always fidgeting/jumping between topics and/or poor emotional regulation (not everyone has every symptom) - this may be something worth looking into.

Having said that thanks to this I am now somewhat of an expert on motivation and habit building because I have had to absolutely maximise my own shitty capabilities at it to have any chance of managing any change in my own life :o

So this is what I've learned:

People like what's familiar and well known, we will tend to fall back into patterns unless we have something to make us come out of them. Doing something differently is new and by virtue of that it's hard. You can counteract this:

  • By making the old habit harder - e.g. somebody suggested not having junk food in the house.
  • By making the new habit easier - e.g. if you're daunted by complicated recipes of "healthy" food, decide to look for and use only those which are very easy and simple. Give yourself permission to use some convenience items if they fit into the plan. I get out of bed quicker by making sure I have a dressing gown and fluffy slippers so I don't feel like I'm losing the warmth of the duvet.
  • Make the new habit obvious and/or interrupt the old habit - e.g. place your guitar in a visible spot in the living room, perhaps in the way of the TV remote, reminding you you had decided to practice for 10 minutes before watching TV.
  • By making the new habit appealing - e.g. start an exercise which sounds fun. Look up new healthy recipes you're excited to eat.
  • By making the old habit less appealing - e.g. use an app or battery saving mode to put your phone into black and white (apparently, this works).

Dopamine is quite important in the motivation game. That's one of the brain chemicals that makes you feel happy. Essentially dopamine is your inner toddler/puppy and you need to give it enough playtime, fun, joy - then it will go to sleep and let you get on with something important and/or boring. But if you don't "feed" this inner toddler enough it will become bored and destructive, making you want to do nothing but act like a spoilt child - eat crap, be lazy, play computer games, and you definitely won't be able to make yourself concentrate on an essay or housework. This is the state where you just keep refreshing facebook even though it's 3am and everyone is asleep. Some mental health issues like depression can result in not enough dopamine, meaning you'll struggle to experience that "joy" from things or receptors which hoover up the dopamine too fast which means you go straight from joy to seeking the next thing. If you're stressed, run down, trying to cope with complicated things all the time, you'll also be low on dopamine as it's constantly getting "used up" trying to cope with all the stress you're under.

Gamification is a marketing technique which hijacks the dopamine system in order to keep you coming back to something - you can use it yourself to build habits, essentially how you do this is to keep chasing tiny, achievable goals, for example, build yourself a reward chart like a child and keep rewarding yourself after every small bit of achievement. It can just be a tick in a chart. That will hit your dopamine receptors and keep you going. There are apps which will help you with this for some tasks.

Routine and patterns are important to us so you can help a new habit by "hooking" it onto something you already do. For example, stay later at work/college to finish some work, rather than trying to do it at home. Place a reminder for something on the bathroom mirror, so you see it when you brush your teeth. I saw a brilliant one for exercise which is to get up and dress immediately in exercise clothing so that you feel stupid if you get changed without doing any exercise.

Hooking onto obligation or external forces you can't change helps too. For example I used to try to get up in time to watch Friends before I left for school. I could not change the TV programming and if I was late, I missed it. Offering to walk somebody's dog regularly will get you out and active. Signing up to a class you have paid for, are expected at and will therefore feel bad if you miss a session is a good way to motivate yourself to go.

We are more motivated by short term happiness than long term gain - this is the marshmallow test in real life but it's very tricky to get over. To improve this, increase the short term reward, remind yourself of your long term goal, bring the long term goal closer (pick a smaller, nearer goal to focus on). Plus the tips in my first paragraph about making the "bad" habit harder to do. Track your progress - this helps hugely in seeing your own progression towards a goal otherwise it always just seems vaguely out there in the future.

Willpower is a bit of a myth - essentially you need to identify the barriers to something - what is it that puts you off, even if it sounds stupid to you? And break those down. And don't expect too much. Then track the change because it really helps with the feedback loop.

HTH :)

Countryescape · 29/09/2019 21:00

Depression makes it hard to sustain changes. Sometimes just getting through the day is hard.

Kazooboohoo · 29/09/2019 21:03

I'm probably missing the point here but in my case I'd blame time and money. For my health, I'd like to spend £40 a month to join the local gym and spend an hour a day there maybe three days a week. But where is £500 a year coming from and between work and home issues where's the time?

Ditto choosing a cheap burger instantly from a fast food joint vs buying healthy, relatively expensive, fresh ingredients and spending an hour and a half cooking a decent meal.

Pinkarsedfly · 29/09/2019 21:05

Read The Chimp Paradox, OP. Explains all about compulsions.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 29/09/2019 21:06

I know I need to make serious changes in my life - mainly my diet/weight. Why don’t I do it? Mainly due to depression, tiredness, low self esteem and generally not caring about myself enough to want to do the things that won’t lead to me dropping dead.

burblife · 29/09/2019 21:56

I agree with pp about bad habits being very difficult to break. They become so ingrained in who we are. I started reading The Power of Habits a while back and started to shift my mindset. It talks about making a task so small that you can't fail at it (eg do one press up per day) then repeating it every day until it becomes a new habit. Willpower alone is not enough as it is reduced by all the things pp have mentioned (stress of work, children, sleep deprivation, emotional eating etc).

Second pregnancy and newborn have given me time out away from work to reflect and motivation to make real changes going forward. I think about my DM and PIL (all obese and with health problems) and realise I'm not going to be fit enough to run around after my children or certainly grandchildren if I don't make changes now. I do think there's a 'moment' when you commit to change but lots of little choices make it actually happen (those little habits build up day after day).

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