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AIBU?

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Okay, about teachers...

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KitKat1985 · 28/09/2019 13:21

Okay I'm being brave here. I know a few people who happen to be teachers. Whenever they talk about their jobs, there's a real 'no other profession has to work as hard as us' vibe to their speech. I am fully aware and in agreement that it's a stressful job with long hours and ridiculous amount of pressure if you don't count the long holidays but it's hardly the only profession that has these issues. I myself am a nurse, and 14 hour shifts on an under-staffed ward with no breaks and several severely ill / abusive patient to look after are hardly a picnic either. But whenever I discuss work with teacher friends there's a definite 'if you want to talk about stress you should try being a teacher' element to the conversation, and it's starting to really get on my nerves. Lots of jobs are stressful, teaching isn't the only one! And it's only teachers I know that seem to have this general attitude about their profession. AIBU? Is it really more stressful than any other profession out there?

OP posts:
CuckooCuckooClock · 01/10/2019 20:14

I have no opinion on smidgen.
I’m the sort of crap teacher that can’t spell.
Probably deserve to be dismissed.

LolaSmiles · 01/10/2019 20:15

NoTheresa
It absolutely is a weird sport.

Now the claim is it's just people sharing their experiences, when throughout the whole thread there's people weighing on on unions and dismissing workplace bullying because it couldn't have happened in the absence of lots of employment tribunals. There's people making claims about getting the sack etc. Not personal experiences. It's personal experiences and opinions mixed with inaccurate or misleading or simply false claims, which when challenged are just people sharing experiences.

NoTheresa · 01/10/2019 20:16

No personal axe to grind, I assure you - but a very great sense of irritation at the way some of you have wilfully set about dissing the teaching profession in this thread.

Feenie · 01/10/2019 20:16

Anyone for a game of Monkey Tennis?

Bored of Pigeon Chess now.

I reckon that would last about 150 posts...

NoTheresa · 01/10/2019 20:17

@Dorsetdays

NoTheresa · 01/10/2019 20:17

...on this thread.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 01/10/2019 20:17

**NoTheresa
It absolutely is a weird sport.

Now the claim is it's just people sharing their experiences, when throughout the whole thread there's people weighing on on unions and dismissing workplace bullying because it couldn't have happened in the absence of lots of employment tribunals. There's people making claims about getting the sack etc. Not personal experiences. It's personal experiences and opinions mixed with inaccurate or misleading or simply false claims, which when challenged are just people sharing experiences...**

Do you believe your own drivel Hmm

CuckooCuckooClock · 01/10/2019 20:18

If I didn’t know better, I might even read it as double standards Lola

myrtleWilson · 01/10/2019 20:18

It is weird... why be so heavily invested in another profession to the extent that some posters on here have manipulated previous posters, have tried to switch and bait re questions. I'm not the most selfish person in the world (I'd like to think) but I can't bring myself to be that selfless to be so invested in a world that isn't mine.

myrtleWilson · 01/10/2019 20:19

that should read "previous posts" not "previous posters" I'm not suggesting in anyway that the over invested have been manipulating actual posters to post in a certain manner - that would be an absolute definition of over investment

Feenie · 01/10/2019 20:20

Positively stalker-like. We should be flattered, really.

Dorsetdays · 01/10/2019 20:20

Lola. There you go again, twisting posts to suit your narrative. The posts about unions were around why, if bullying is as rife as claimed in so many schools, there isn’t a massive increase in ET claims or outcomes.

No one said it never happens, just not in the vast numbers that were being suggested on here. In the absence of any increase in those stats, anything else is just anecdotal.

But of course teachers are allowed to rely on anecdotal evidence, it’s just everyone else that isn’t.

noblegiraffe · 01/10/2019 20:20

I think I would say ‘just a smidge’.

Feenie · 01/10/2019 20:22

'smidgerooney'?

noblegiraffe · 01/10/2019 20:23

why, if bullying is as rife as claimed in so many schools, there isn’t a massive increase in ET claims or outcomes.

There is, however, a worrying increase in the number of teachers leaving the profession. Explain that?

Feenie · 01/10/2019 20:24

Probably spelt 'smidgeroonie' - with the aforementioned being a regional variation in Liverpool Grin

NoTheresa · 01/10/2019 20:24

Everyone hates teachers.

•They get such long holidays.
•They leave work before 4 pm EVERY DAY!!
•A teacher was nasty to me once upon a time.

Isn't that the way it goes?

Dorsetdays · 01/10/2019 20:25

Funnily enough the over investment is coming from the teachers on here. This thread isn’t about teachers, get over yourselves because not everything is about you

This thread is actually about other peoples experience of teachers they know in comparison to other professions.

You’ve just hi jacked it so you can tell us how wrong we are to have an opinion on people we know and to justify how hard you work etc etc.

It doesn’t matter a jot to me if you work 60 hours a work, that’s your problem, it still doesn’t change the fact that none of the teachers I know work anything like that and that some of them still moan more than others I know in other professions.

Dorsetdays · 01/10/2019 20:27

Noble. Perhaps because they’re not very good? Because surely loads of those leaving must be the teachers who are being bullied or managed out that people keep talking about?

noblegiraffe · 01/10/2019 20:27

Perhaps because they’re not very good?

Not in my experience. Try again.

silly248 · 01/10/2019 20:28

I would hate to work with a such a load of moaning people.

Imagine how depressing that is

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 01/10/2019 20:28

I don’t believe this is the way this thread went, far from it actually, however some WANT it to go that way.

Anyway I’m currently holidaying in Spain, my husband and sons have just come back from kitesurfing so have fun!!

noblegiraffe · 01/10/2019 20:30

silly returns and haud goes. Like a tag team. Hmm

LolaSmiles · 01/10/2019 20:30

No one said it never happens, just not in the vast numbers that were being suggested on here. In the absence of any increase in those stats, anything else is just anecdotal.
So you say yourself, people not in schools are best placed to comment on how the reports from inside schools can't possibly be on the scale reported by people in schools.
People explained repeatedly on the tribunal situation and union advice and people taking settlements to move on and rebuild their lives etc. That was conveniently played down.
But of course teachers are allowed to rely on anecdotal evidence, it’s just everyone else that isn’t.
Teachers are commenting on what they see and experience first hand in schools.
People not in schools can't comment on that because they aren't there. It's second and third hand.

Dorsetdays · 01/10/2019 20:31

Noble. But they must be a good proportion of them because it’s so rife isn’t it?

Unless that wasn’t entirely true.