How bad is 16.8mmol

[ElizaDee]

3hrs after eating blueberries?

I bought a new BG meter as I lost my last one - which I bought when I was told I was prediabetic. It arrived today so I tested when I got in. The reading was 16.8mmol.

I'm going to see what my morning readings are but it doesn't look good does it? ☹️

People who are “trained” in a diabetes will never be as knowledgable as the people who live with it everyday

Clinicians absolutely should listen to and respect patients who are managing a chronic condition, and patients with chronic diseases do become very knowledgeable about that condition, but it is absurd and irresponsible to say that the patient understands the condition better than a consultant endocrinologist or nurse specialist, people who have a holistic specialist knowledge of how the whole body works and have an overview of how it manifests over hundreds if not thousands of patients over a working life.

If you are diabetic you will need medication, try and VLCD with, not instead of medication

You do need to see a doctor asap and take steps in the meantime to reduce the impact on your look glucose. Also look at Dr David Unwin who a uk specialist who has great results using diet, pretty sure the daily mail is currently running a series on his methods. I urge you to read as much asyou can and take control yourself. Both myself and my husband were prediabetic six months ago but have reversed this with diet alone.

@BrexitStash Not everyone needs medication.

ElizaDee with the kind of levels you're posting it seems very likely. It's dangerous not to, have a look at DKA or HHS as the worse case scenarios.
You need a HBA1C for your average levels over 3 months. It's not a failing if you do, it'll help the VLCD as well by decreasing the insulin resistance ( insulin promotes fat deposition)

Honey, 18 is very high and you need medication at the moment. Better to take medication than let these highs ruin your eyesight or your kidneys. Diabetes isn't a joke or something to take lightly with only a diet and some essential oils crap. You need help NOW

My surgery is shut this afternoon for training 🙄

There is a GP in the a&e though.

14.6 and I haven't eaten anything since breakfast.

I'm waiting to see the a&e gp now.

I don’t think you can ever understand something as well as you would if you lived with it

I'm waiting to see the a&e gp now.

I'm glad to hear it.

14.6 and I haven't eaten anything since breakfast.

Well that shows you that a diet won't make it go away. You need medication.

Well that shows you that a diet won't make it go away. You need medication

Utter ignorant bullshit

As for ‘trained professionals’ don’t make me laugh.

People who DO control/reverse their diabetes know more about it than a Diabetes Nurse for the NHS ever will. They do more harm than good.

Eluza yes, you can come off meds, if you go to Diabetes.co.uk you’ll get plenty of information about it.

Panic not, some of the scaremongering here is utterly ridiculous.

Yes you need to know what your HbA1c is but you can sort it out with diet & other changes & without medication.

People with much higher readings have it under control (& have for YEARS with diet and/or exercise).

Diabetes isn't a joke or something to take lightly with only a diet and some essential oils crap

ODFOD you haven’t a clue what you’re on about

I think it is dangerous, tbh, to talk about self- management, staying off meds, keeping it under control, etc., when a poster has repeated blood sugar readings that are well into the diabetic range, with symptoms of diabetes. I'm not suggesting that any of the above is untrue, in itself, but at this stage the OP doesn't even know if they are type 1 or type 2 diabetic (or any other subtype). The time for tight blood sugar control and options to achieve that is after seeking medical input.

Not only does the OP not know what her situation is, but another Mumsnet user could read this thread and decide not to visit the doctor, but just 'control it' and end up in DKA.

Incrediblysadtoo you are touting dangerous bullshit. Hyperglycemia can be very dangerous, you don't even know if the OP is type 1 or 2, nor does she. Fucking hell the ignorance and stupidity is mind boggling.

As a HCP, working in a diabetes care team, I do NOT recommend diabetes.co.uk.

Amongst other things, the terminology is out of date. And it's not exactly evidence-based.

"Diabetics" "Blood sugar" HbA1c in percentages - FFS!

Am sure OP will be getting good care now in A&E - there are protocols for this type of thing.

It's very concerning some of the "advice" here, when OP is vulnerable & other posters are using it to push their own agenda.

I saw the triage nurse and she took a reading and it was 13.0.

It's lowering but I still haven't eaten.

@IncrediblySadToo
I have type 1 diabetes. My pancreas doesn't work. No amount of good diet (and believe me, I eat extremely healthy) will make my body produce insulin. We don't know what the OP has exactly, she needs medical advice,l from a medical professional. You don't sound like one.

@ElizaDee
What is their plan now?

I don't know, I'm still waiting to see the GP.

They'll probably send me home and tell me to see my own gp tomorrow.

I saw the Dr. He said I might still be on the edge of prediabetes. He did a urine test and said the ketones indicate a bit dehydrated. I've got to have some blood tests done now, and he's checking for infection, but not doing a hab1c, I'll have to go to my GP for that.

Eliza I'd be getting a second opinion, a reading above 11 is diagnostic of diabetes.

@ElizaDee I was diagnosed with T1 in my mid 30s, with similar symptoms and slightly higher BG levels than you. I had a terrible time getting the correct diagnosis, with my (then) GP and an A&E doctor treating it as T2 because of my age (despite various factors strongly indicating T1). Many people assume T2 in adults despite adult onset T1 being 50% of new diagnoses as @JellyBabiesSaveLives says above. By the time I finally got seen and properly treated by the (excellent) hospital diabetes clinic I was extremely ill.

I don't mean to scare you (both T1 and T2 can be really well managed with modern insulin and modern technology), but just to say if your BG remains so high you might need to push for a specialist. Good luck

If you've got ketones and blood glucose levels that high, you need immediate assessment to rule out type one diabetes. Please don't wait and don't listen to your GP.

How high were your ketones?

You should go on the course. I am just coming to the end of one and have gone from being prediabetic to being well within the normal range. It has been brilliant. I would say you're eating far too much fruit and also probably too many carbs, if that's any help.