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In-laws new baby, help!!

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Newbiemumsy66 · 23/09/2019 22:29

SORRY FOR THE ESSAY IN ADVANCE BUT I MEED TO VENT...I have a 6 week old baby who is very fussy and I am struggling to adjust to parenthood. She has reflux among other things and even getting out of the house is like a military operation that takes half of the day to plan and execute. I also had a very difficult ECC and subsequently lost a lot of blood and have healed quite slowly and still feel I’m barely halfway to feeling normal (whatever that is these days).

My in laws are fairly local about 20-30 min drive and they keep suggesting things like “popping in for a cup of tea”. Which is fine, I understand the importance of me getting out which I do as much as I can, I have a dog so walk every day and see friends as much as possible etc and she is their first and probably only grandchild so they are understandably excited and keen. However we are now at a point where they are expecting to see us 2-3 times a week, which I feel is not reasonable? What’s worse is they have been to us once since she was born. They are very good at making me and DH feel guilty if we say no or cancel if I’m having a brutal day or no sleep the night before. They are fairly elderly but still very capable of coming to us but always cancel when they have plans to do so and suggest rescheduling at theirs etc.

When we do visit it is also never a quick cup of tea and a cuddle it’s a 3 hour visit with lots of “well I better be going soon” to be then held captive for another hour because FIL or MIL had less of a cuddle than the other one. To add to the issue my DH’s very grown up (40 YO) sibling lives at home and they also get jealous if we visit when they are out or if they come home just as we are leaving, we have to then stay so they can have a hold. They also feel it’s necessary to put their fingers in DD mouth to suck on, Rest their chin on top of DD head (not gently) and say things like oh you just needed a cuddle from me to settle down ( which makes me feel like sh*t because I know they do it for attention and don’t really see DD in full force when she just won’t be put down, so probably think I’m exaggerating how bad it is ). DH’s sibling is quite fragile when it comes to criticism ( think Kevin from Harry Enfield but grown up) so I have to be very indirect when I don’t want them to do something. For example they text us both every day ( I don’t talk to my own mother every day) just to say “how did you sleep last night” ( erm I have a newborn so I didn’t sleep, but thanks for asking) or just “hi how are you” if I don’t text back within an hour they resend the same message. Eventually I had to concoct a story that I had this friend who texts non stop about not very much and having a newborn my hands are full so I have to tell her to stop as I can’t always reply unless it’s urgent - in the hope they would take the hint. I just find the whole dynamic really stressful and exhausting trying to keep everyone happy and so different to my own family who are very supportive and close but we speak 1-2 times a week.

I guess what I want opinions on is AIBU to want them to take a step back and just calm down and allow me to get into a routine without the pressure of having to visit them several times a week, and also how do we/I go about doing that. The other thing is the holding and passing around of DD, I’m not precious at all about my baby being held by people but I just find it annoying that every time we have to pass her around regardless of her mood. And with a baby that doesn’t settle well can set me back for the rest or the afternoon if she is over stimulated etc. Lastly as a new parent is it ever ok to start telling people not to do things you don’t like, such as fingers in mouth ( I find it totally disgusting, potentially dangerous and just a bit rude to do it to someone else’s baby).

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scamander · 23/09/2019 22:38

OMG I don't even know how you do it!! At 6 weeks I was barely leaving the house for anything more than fresh air. Urgh!!! 2-3 times a weeks is a lot.

Just begin cutting it down with excuses like ' we didn't sleep last night', 'baby got jags yesterday and she's poorly' or ' sorry we have some friends over today'

OP give your body time to heal and peace of mind. It's ok to be selfish. Also try going to see them in the afternoon, an hour before tea time..to avoid the prolonged goodbye. You need to bath baby and get her in a routine, remember Wink

Gertie75 · 23/09/2019 22:40

I'm always torn on this issue because my il's are useless and I'd love them to be more interested in dd's, they've visited twice in 6 years and the second time fil sat in the car on the drive because they'd bought the dog and didn't want to leave her in the car alone.
I firmly believe children really benefit from having good relationships with their Gp's.

Yours however do sound very full on and although they're only doing it out of love it seems like you need to set more boundaries, ignore their sulking, after an hour or whenever you're ready to go just put your shoes on pick up dd and leave, don't let them dictate how long you hang around, also get your Dh on board too.

You're enabling them by visiting when they lay on the guilt and letting them ignore you when you want to leave.

Try and get into a routine of perhaps visiting every second Saturday and sticking to it.

Smelborp · 23/09/2019 22:41

Absolutely ok to tell them not to put fingers in mouth.

You need to enforce your boundaries. It sounds like almost an hour round trip so it’s perfectly reasonable to say: “We can’t come today, we didn’t sleep well and it wouldn’t be safe to drive.”

“We have plans most of the week, but we’re free on day x” which can be a week in the future. Let’s rhem know they can see you all but it doesn’t have to be 3x a week.

Troels · 23/09/2019 22:47

You are going out to walk a dog 6 weeks post c-section and seeing friends but they can't pop by? Then YABU.
If they call be specific, yes pop by, but make it before lunch then you'll be busy. Tell them what you want. They aren't mind readers.
Yes I had two ECS, yes I took forever to heal as I did too much and started bleeding over again. Yes I had a reflux baby. Hand them a muslin and a pukey baby, make them work for the cuddles.
Get MIL onside, make her do the vetting and telling people no, have her make tea, wash up and change nappies. Sit on the couch like an invalid and let her do stuff. She'll love it.

user1487194234 · 23/09/2019 22:52

I would get your DH to have a word with them and explain that it is all a bit too much too soon
Arrange something for say once a week and set your boundaries eg So I am looking forward to seeing you on Wednesday,will come after lunch and will have to leave at 4 because of the traffic
Hopefully they wycalm down a bit and as you time goes on you will have baby groups etc so genuine reason to say sorry am very busy
Look after yourself and your baby anything else is a bonus

Newbiemumsy66 · 23/09/2019 22:54

Thanks for the advice, it makes sense but I think you may have misunderstood, they are expecting me to drive to theirs, they never come over even when invited they ask if we can come to theirs for dinner etc. When I say walk the dog I stand in a field and throw the ball. When I say see friends I’ve seen friends a handful of times.

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Lumene · 23/09/2019 22:55

Set some boundaries and let them know what you can manage. By the time baby is a bit older you may feel pleased to see them to help entertain a crazy energetic toddler...

1Morewineplease · 23/09/2019 22:56

I’m with Troels.
Loved having in-laws popping round. They got to cuddle and change my firstborn and I got a bit of kip!
If you’re able to walk a dog every day and see your friends willy-nilly then a few minutes with precious grandparents isn’t too much to ask. Feel sure they know when to leave. If they don’t, then just tell them you’re tired.
Please don’t become an anti-IL! I’ve seen and heard the ‘I Can’t Stand My IN-Laws’ thread far too often on MN lately.

1Morewineplease · 23/09/2019 22:57

PS... In-Laws won’t be around forever. Just saying...

Troels · 23/09/2019 22:58

Then you need to say you aren't supposed to be driving yet, it's hampering recoovery (one of the stupid things I did which set my recovery back BTW) that they should come to you for a morning coffee or something like that and then go home at lunchtime.
It's much easier when people come to you.
Also be careful not to throw the ball too hard, you will be pulling on your abs doing it.

Septembersunrays · 23/09/2019 23:00

With flu and norivirus season coming up, sticking dirty nails and fingers in delicate babies mouth is no no.

Katex888 · 23/09/2019 23:01

It’s your house, your baby and don’t feel pressured into doing anything you don’t want to. Grandparents don’t have rights over the mum, it doesn’t matter what they want.

I didn’t want my mil coming everyday and I refused to let it happen. It was my babies and my choice. You don’t owe your in-laws anything.

Drabarni · 23/09/2019 23:02

I have the answer for you.
Tell them they are welcome to come and see you when they like but best to call first as you'd hate them to make the effort and it not being convenient.
You need to recover slowly or you'll pay later. Then go to see them once a week.

Jellybeansincognito · 23/09/2019 23:12

Your child’s health and your mental health come before everyone else.
Don’t sit and watch them put their fingers in her mouth and rest their chin on her head, it doesn’t matter who they are- don’t let them walk all over you.
The sooner you put your foot down, the less of a lifetime of battles you’ll have when she’s getting older.

GreenTulips · 23/09/2019 23:17

Does your husband go with you or are you expected on your own

LazyLizzy · 23/09/2019 23:22

1More they won't come to OP's house.

They want her to do the hour round trip and sit in their house for several hours.

Penelopeschat · 23/09/2019 23:23

Definitely have DH have a quiet word. Maybe go there once a week and say they can come over once a week but visits are limited to an hour as baby’s routine is important and you are getting rest. Also definitely a no-no to our fingers in baby’s mouth, absolutely awful and risking infections. That would make me speak up even tho I can be timid!

EL8888 · 23/09/2019 23:24

The visits sound too excessive to me. They also need to make more effort, now is the time to set your stall out. Fingers in mouth thing is grim

Newbiemumsy66 · 23/09/2019 23:25

He is back at work now after PL so mostly expect me to go around on my own during the work days. We also visit every weekend as a family.

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LazyLizzy · 23/09/2019 23:26

Agree set your boundaries now.

You go to them once a week and they are welcome to visit you if they bother to make an effort.

I'd also take baby straight off somebody who was leaning on her head. Idiots.

Blue101 · 23/09/2019 23:36

Op- they sound just like my ils. When baby finally came home (was prem), I was trying to get to grips with everything plus the fact that baby was still needing that extra time/care (and a timer as baby would sleep all day and I had been advised to wake after four hours, with the struggles of trying to breastfeed). Anyway, I went along with it, strapping this tiny being up and going to theirs pretty much everyday. Worse thing was baby hated loud sounds and would cry a lot (very busy house with lots of people!). I wanted to relax but it was hard with the hustle and bustle.
In hindsight I wish I had put my foot down, and I think this is so important for you to do now. We don’t go as often any more (baby now an 8 year old), and they complain about that!

CarysRed · 23/09/2019 23:36

@1Morewineplease but it isn’t a few minutes, it’s a few hours, a few times a week, at their house.

SpaceDinosaur · 23/09/2019 23:37

Thank you so much for the invitation but driving to yours so regularly is really interfering with trying to establish ourselves at home. I'm still in a haze so i will not be doing it any more.

You are VERY welcome to come over. We want you too. There is a mountain of laundry, dishes everywhere and I think the dog's under a pile of muslins somewhere. Your help and support would be invaluable.

No. PLEASE don't put your fingers in her mouth. If she needs to suck then give her here. You're clean yes but you're not her mother and I am really not comfortable with this any more.

MaPaSpa · 23/09/2019 23:45

They've got a very cushty set up it seems. OP time to set some boundaries.
Send a text, "

Hi Guys, I appreciate all the love and support I've had since DC arrived its been invaluable. Unfortunately am not healing as well as hoped and am finding the travelling back and forth quite a strain.

I would still love to for DC to see her grand parents regularly. How about alternating mornings/afternoons on Thursday and Tuesday. Or let me know what days are better for you. If you guys can't make it round to see DC all visits will have to be when DH pops by on the weekend for the foreseeable but would hate if this was the case as DC would be missing out on so many extra cuddles :)"

Something along these lines anyway. put the onus on them to visit and provide the support that you need or the visits will be limited. you should not be travelling back and forth with a new born after a Ec you should be feet up and doing bare minimum.

Cherrysoup · 23/09/2019 23:45

Woah, the sticking fingers in mouth would give me the rage! Tell her to stop that shit, in whatever terms you want, but with immediate effect! Ick!

I think if you tell them you’ll be round at the weekend, that’s fine, especially if they can’t be arsed to come to you.