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In-laws new baby, help!!

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Newbiemumsy66 · 23/09/2019 22:29

SORRY FOR THE ESSAY IN ADVANCE BUT I MEED TO VENT...I have a 6 week old baby who is very fussy and I am struggling to adjust to parenthood. She has reflux among other things and even getting out of the house is like a military operation that takes half of the day to plan and execute. I also had a very difficult ECC and subsequently lost a lot of blood and have healed quite slowly and still feel I’m barely halfway to feeling normal (whatever that is these days).

My in laws are fairly local about 20-30 min drive and they keep suggesting things like “popping in for a cup of tea”. Which is fine, I understand the importance of me getting out which I do as much as I can, I have a dog so walk every day and see friends as much as possible etc and she is their first and probably only grandchild so they are understandably excited and keen. However we are now at a point where they are expecting to see us 2-3 times a week, which I feel is not reasonable? What’s worse is they have been to us once since she was born. They are very good at making me and DH feel guilty if we say no or cancel if I’m having a brutal day or no sleep the night before. They are fairly elderly but still very capable of coming to us but always cancel when they have plans to do so and suggest rescheduling at theirs etc.

When we do visit it is also never a quick cup of tea and a cuddle it’s a 3 hour visit with lots of “well I better be going soon” to be then held captive for another hour because FIL or MIL had less of a cuddle than the other one. To add to the issue my DH’s very grown up (40 YO) sibling lives at home and they also get jealous if we visit when they are out or if they come home just as we are leaving, we have to then stay so they can have a hold. They also feel it’s necessary to put their fingers in DD mouth to suck on, Rest their chin on top of DD head (not gently) and say things like oh you just needed a cuddle from me to settle down ( which makes me feel like sh*t because I know they do it for attention and don’t really see DD in full force when she just won’t be put down, so probably think I’m exaggerating how bad it is ). DH’s sibling is quite fragile when it comes to criticism ( think Kevin from Harry Enfield but grown up) so I have to be very indirect when I don’t want them to do something. For example they text us both every day ( I don’t talk to my own mother every day) just to say “how did you sleep last night” ( erm I have a newborn so I didn’t sleep, but thanks for asking) or just “hi how are you” if I don’t text back within an hour they resend the same message. Eventually I had to concoct a story that I had this friend who texts non stop about not very much and having a newborn my hands are full so I have to tell her to stop as I can’t always reply unless it’s urgent - in the hope they would take the hint. I just find the whole dynamic really stressful and exhausting trying to keep everyone happy and so different to my own family who are very supportive and close but we speak 1-2 times a week.

I guess what I want opinions on is AIBU to want them to take a step back and just calm down and allow me to get into a routine without the pressure of having to visit them several times a week, and also how do we/I go about doing that. The other thing is the holding and passing around of DD, I’m not precious at all about my baby being held by people but I just find it annoying that every time we have to pass her around regardless of her mood. And with a baby that doesn’t settle well can set me back for the rest or the afternoon if she is over stimulated etc. Lastly as a new parent is it ever ok to start telling people not to do things you don’t like, such as fingers in mouth ( I find it totally disgusting, potentially dangerous and just a bit rude to do it to someone else’s baby).

OP posts:
Newbiemumsy66 · 23/09/2019 23:45

Thank you, that seems like the perfect response. Perhaps in my haze I haven’t been able to think of the right way to put it across diplomatically, it’s just felt a little overwhelming and I am generally a people pleaser who doesn’t like to say no. I always worry what people think and although we see them a lot I’m not especially close to them in terms of the way I can speak freely to them...a little shy I guess.

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Grandmi · 23/09/2019 23:49

Maybe just be perfectly honest and say that you need a bit of space and time with the baby ...am sure they will understand.X

PanamaPattie · 23/09/2019 23:51

Don't go every weekend as a family. Routines like these are difficult to break. Don't drive to see them on your own. If they want to see you in the week, they can make the effort. They've got all the time to do it! Go and see them occasionally with DH. Tell them to keep their filthy fingers out of your baby's mouth, or no cuddles.

OoohRhubarbLetsGo · 23/09/2019 23:54
  1. Stop travelling to them, that’s insane. Invite them to you.
  1. If they change plans, be less available. If they mess you about and miss a scheduled visit, they come over for the next agreed date.
Blondebakingmumma · 23/09/2019 23:55

Cut down visits to once a week and have an appointment to get to so have to leave 😉

elvis86 · 23/09/2019 23:55

Another WTF?! post. Confused

You have a 6 week old baby, and you're driving an hour-long round-trip to your in-laws' 2-3 times a week (besides visiting every weekend with your husband)...when you don't want to?!

Literally how has this scenario even occured?! It's much harder to get out of these things when you've allowed a precedent to be set, but I cannot see how you've ended up in this position?!

I'm usually sceptical about IL-bashing, but they're lucky to be getting a weekly visit IMO. If they can travel them I'd expect them to be visiting you at weekends at this stage.

I'd just say that you need to get into a routine at home with your baby. They're welcome to visit as often as you actually want them to (I think weekly is plenty if you're partner isn't around during the week anyway and you're not that close to them yourself). If you genuinely would appreciate some help at home, then throw PIL that bone.

You'll probably find that the loser sibling won't bother to leave the house to visit, so there's another bonus.

Blondebakingmumma · 23/09/2019 23:56

Oh and stop the finger in the mouth

AnonJIC · 23/09/2019 23:59

@1Morewineplease did you deliberately not read the OP properly??

TeaForTara · 24/09/2019 00:01

Really, you need to remember the Mumsnet saying "No is a complete sentence." Somehow I don't think you'll do that, so try telling them that you've had a check up and you're not healing as well as you should be because you've been overdoing things. You are under strict instructions to rest as much as possible, and you shouldn't drive. Therefore you are unable to visit them until you are fully healed. Perhaps they can come to you once a week instead?

DishingOutDone · 24/09/2019 00:02

Why isn't your DH dealing with this? If for some reason you can't prevent yourself driving over there and letting them do whatever they want, then he should.

StoppinBy · 24/09/2019 00:08

Travelling without kids is so much easier than travelling with kids so I would be making a point of telling them that you would appreciate it if they could do the majority of the visiting..... be careful what you wish for though they may be at your door every day lol.

Is it ever ok to tell people not to do things that are not good for your baby/child - yes, of course it is, and the things they are doing wouldn't be ok with most people. I do think you need to ask your DH to do the talking here as he is blood family and they will not perceive it in the same way as if you were to say something.

user1573354 · 24/09/2019 00:24

I think DD has developed a very traumatic hatred of the car seat due to her reflux hasn't she? Wink. I really wouldn't stress how much you'd love them to come to you in the week instead. If you can get them to come to you once a week and you go to them once a month that would be more maneagable. Don't give them an open invitation. It may sound better than the current situation but it is out of the frying pan into the fire if you then can't get them to leave your house.

Nancydrawn · 24/09/2019 00:31

Your husband needs to run interference here. He needs to talk with his family and tell them what the text says above. Dealing with your in-laws is not your job: your job is currently healing and taking care of your baby.

Lahlahfizzyfizzydoda · 24/09/2019 00:31

Sorry but those saying YABU Hmm

That is FAR too much. They expect you to go there 2/3 times per week for hours and you also go on the weekend....

Also, an hour round trip with a newborn in a car is not good for your DD.

Ignore the manipulation, they have no right to make such demands, especially as you’ve invited them over and they say no. You can say no also!

As for the sticking fingers in her mouth...WTAF!

She’s a newborn baby, high risk of infection so you need to be way more assertive and tell them to stop!

RightYesButNo · 24/09/2019 00:33

Another WTF?! post. Confused

Seriously. This is maybe the third one this week? It’s almost always people making ridiculous demands on new mums with six-week-old babies, it seems. It also seems that (like OP says about herself) a lot of women are people pleasers, and then discover after they have children that they can’t just keep going like before, martyred to everybody, and they need to put not just their children but also themselves first now. It’s not your fault, OP - it sounds like your ILs are pretty inconsiderate to be guilting you into 2-3 trips to visit them a week, guilting you into staying longer, guilting you into staying to see the adult sibling that stays long who then puts their fingers in your baby’s mouth (say no!!!). And over 90% of people agree with you (and some clearly seem to not understand and think that your ILs are coming to you??? So I wouldn’t worry about some of the YABU votes).

You have a baby now. You’ve had major surgery. The people pleasing, pitting everyone else first days are over. It’s time to establish some healthy boundaries, and you’ll have a much, MUCH happier time of it, and be able to get back to “normal” much faster. Honestly, I can’t even believe you’ve been traveling that much to your ILs after losing so much blood. Stop now, and heal faster! You’re allowed to do it for yourself!

Absolutely just send them a breezy text or call or have DH do it, and just say something that includes facts along the lines of, “The baby just can’t handle this much travel. We’d love to have you any time you’d like to stop by, but we won’t be coming to your place again until Sunday (or later, whenever works for you). I’m sure you remember what it was like with a newborn and very little sleep! Thanks for understanding!” Don’t give them the opportunity to respond with anything but a positive. Hell, tell them it’s bad for baby’s reflux to go through all of that... because to be honest, it probably is, so you have a good reason!

Good luck, OP! Being a new mum is hard enough, and I’m sure you’ll find a balance Flowers

Mothership4two · 24/09/2019 00:35

Wow I think a few people forget what it is like to have a young baby.

Your priorities are in your home not in theirs. Looking after yourself and establishing a routine that works for you is important. Driving all that way 2-3 times a week with a 6 week old is ridiculous as is going as a family every weekend. If they want to see your dc then they can drive over when it fits in with you (then you won't have to deal with 'Kevin'). Ignore constant text messages until they get the hint (don't concoct excuses). They are obviously excited over new gc but are being very selfish.

And don't let anyone do something you find 'totally disgusting, potentially dangerous and just a bit rude' to your baby. If you don't want to give them a direct "back off" then tell them hv advised against it and, maybe, make up a few horror stories of babies being hospitalised, etc, through fingers in mouths. I agree it is potentially dangerous.

Lots of new mums struggle initially (me included) and on top of this your health isnt 100%. Sounds like, other than tackling in-laws, you are doing the right things meeting friends and taking dog out daily - even if it is standing in a field chucking a ball! Don't let them walk all over you.

Lucifer666 · 24/09/2019 00:47

Wow OP no wonder you're feeling stressed out with all these demands and expectations its enough to do anyone's head in never mind with a newborn baby and recovering from a C-section. I think you need to have a word with your DH and have him speak to his parents and flat out say you can't be doing that journey 2-3 times a week especially weekends on top! that's excessive, I get that they're excited but they need to respect your boundaries I'd be really pissed off if someone kept putting their fingers in my baby's mouth after being asked not to do it. If your DH won't have a word then I think @MaPaSpa's response will more than suffice its diplomatic and sensible. If they lay on the guilt then say you're more than welcome to come visit us on such and such day at whatever time but that you really can't handle the journey anymore as its too much for you when you're still healing. If they're offended then tough luck I'm afraid OP, mum and baby's needs come before in laws wants and needs. OP I know you said you're shy and a bit of a people pleaser but you going there as often as you are is creating an expectation that will make it harder to put boundaries down a few years down the line, they'll start expecting you every weekend and getting out of it will be harder. And remember its your life this is impacting so fuck what people think life's to short to worry about it.

Whocutdownthecherrytree · 24/09/2019 00:49

Welcome to motherhood! Sounds like your first big lesson is setting boundaries! If I were you I’d make a regular time once a week when you visit them that’s convenient for you. Otherwise Tell them they can visit you but leaving the house driving to theirs 2-3 times week for 3 hours at a time is insane with a new born. Also at that age baby should only be awake for ~ 1 hour which is barely enough time to feed and change. 5-10 minutes stimulation is all their little brains can handle. Also the finger in the mouth the is gross IMO. When my baby was that small I insisted hands be washed before holding baby. She has no immunity. Classic learn to say no mumsnet! Good luck. Stand your ground. You are only beginning to learn how to be the Mum you want to be. You need time and space for this. Also to heal physically and emotionally from the birth. If they came to you, did the dishes, brought some groceries, made you a tea, held the baby while you napped, cooked you dinner etc I’d say YABU. Because that’s what you need, but they are not. Also an over stimulated newborn is the worst. Change the rules. It’s your baby Flowers

Newbiemumsy66 · 24/09/2019 00:49

Thank you for all of the lovely supportive replies - I really needed the reassurances. I moan to my DH about it every time they come up in conversation which I feel awful about as he is piggy in the middle, and generally speaking he is good at speaking with them but perhaps isn’t firm enough when he does as they are all very stubborn. We both feel indebted to them in some ways as along with the excitement meant they bought A LOT of things for DD and helped us out. To make it clear I don’t dislike my IL’s at all, I love them very much I just find them hard work and very different to my own family in every way really. Perhaps they don’t realise and the theme with a lot of replies here is that I need to not set the bar too high as they will expect it moving forward.

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AngelsOnHigh · 24/09/2019 01:07

Mmmm you lost me when you said Ï walk the dog every day. See friends as much as possible".

Just be honest with them. My priorities are my dog and my friends, not you. End of story

elvis86 · 24/09/2019 01:13

*Mmmm you lost me when you said Ï walk the dog every day. See friends as much as possible".

Just be honest with them. My priorities are my dog and my friends, not you. End of story*

What sanctimonious crap, AngelsOnHigh. Please do explain just how many visits to her ILs per week the OP must make, before she is permitted to walk her dog or see her friends..? Hmm

Newbiemumsy66 · 24/09/2019 01:16

Out of necessity the dog gets a walk and it’s important for recovery not to sit on my arse all day. A gentle walk makes me feel good and getting some fresh air keeps me sane! I’m not hiking up Mount Everest for heavens sake.

As much as possible means I have met one friend for coffee for 30 minutes, and had about 3-4 over to my house once in 6 weeks. But you are quite right I should probably just lock myself up indoors Hmm

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Mothership4two · 24/09/2019 01:31

She's walking a dog and seeing friends occasionally not going off on spa breaks! Yet that somehow invalidates feeling overwhelmed by being pressured to drive over to ILs 2-3 times a week (plus weekends) with a very young baby with reflux and not being 100% physically?

Pretty judgy @AngelsOnHigh & YABU

missnevermind · 24/09/2019 01:54

Such a shame that on the last Doctors visit he gave you such a ticking off about driving already after major abdominal surgery and reminded you that you are not insured until he sees that you are fit and well enough to do so.
Also the doctor has told you that the baby is spending far too much time in a car seat and it my cause developmental delays or upset Wink

AngelsOnHigh · 24/09/2019 01:59

Yep, I was being a bit judgemental. Maybe just a bit tired of reading about in-law problems.

Having said that, they are doing some incredibility stupid things. I can't understand grown adults behaving in this way.