Or is this grim

[Mrsgogginsthe3rd]

Out at a local pub this aft, it’s near a beauty spot and dog friendly. Fine not a problem.

They have bowls outside at the front for water for the dogs. Guy comes to the bar with one in his hand asking for it to be refilled. Fine, barmaid then proceeds to take it from him with her hand inside the bowl (it’s filthy and covered in mud and dog saliva/poo presumably) comes back out with it and immediately starts serving. I’m next daren’t say anything (I know) pick up the drinks and think nah I’m not having these. Take them back and collar someone else and ask them to swap them. They did. They went and said something to her but she still didn’t go wash her hands. Am right in thinking this is totally gross?

Should I email them, surely it’s a massive hygiene risk - they serve food as well .

Toxomoplasmis

Did you mean toxoplasmosis? You catch that from cats faeces and infected meats usually, how you'd get it from a dog bowl I have no idea.

At school we swabbed lots of things, including toilet bowls, and then waited to see what bugs grew. By far the dirtiest item was money, yet no-one ever bats a eyelid about handling food and money.

Well I wouldn’t drink it.

How do you know she didn't wash the bowl and her hands?

Seriously, that’s no worse than the fact she’s handling money all day, which is utterly filthy. In fact I’d rather drink from the dog bowl.

mustrossmhuir

When you have a moment do Google zoonotic diseases in dogs. Dog saliva is often the carrying agent for zoonotic disease . Worm eggs can be present on dogs muzzles or in their saliva and can be deposited in drinking and food bowls , easy enough to understand how they can be transmitted from human to human, if the human having primary contact is not vigilant about hygiene.

raymond also transmitted by dogs.

Do you know how many people don’t wash their hands after going to the loo? There will be human faecal bacteria on the pub tables, chairs, bar ...

Thank you viques for the suggestion that I Google zoonotic diseases.

I have worked in a lot of pubs and nightclubs. They are all filthy behind the scenes.

Ew that would absolutely bother me. I can't understand why anyone would think that's fine!

I think your mouth will have been in contact with worse things.

It wouldn't bother me. A few dog germs will strengthen your immune system.

I have a dog and love my dog soooo much but I would find this grim too. When we go with her to the pub, like we did yesterday evening, I ask for a pint of tap water and take it out to the bowls provided. Simples.

I usually wash my dog bowl inside and out and my hands before refilling it.
Are you sure she just refilled it without doing any washing? If so, I agree that is poor hygiene. While most immune systems would be ok, there are sure to be customers with compromised immune systems (ie cancer patients) that she is endangering.

I wouldn't have given this a second thought. Emailing about it seems a massive overreaction.

pullingmysocksup - she wouldn’t have touched the part of the glass you drink from

I have been in several places where I have had to ask servers for fresh drinks because they've picked up glasses or cups by sticking their fingers inside them. Ugh

Was the bowl clean when she came back out with it? (free of mud/poo or whatever else you saw on it?) If it was clean then she very likely washed her hands at the same time. I don't understand your concern here.

Do you know how many people don’t wash their hands after going to the loo?

I couldn't believe how many people actually admitted that on here the other day I feel really dirty until I wash every bit of them with soap and warm water after.

By far the dirtiest item was money, yet no-one ever bats a eyelid about handling food and money.

Especially when people put the notes in their mouths and then hand them to the cashier. That is properly disgusting.

The bit where the sink is through a little doorway then to the right behind the bar - I know as I’ve been in thee loads. She ran some water in it and brought it back within 15 seconds I could see a third of her whilst she was doing it and what she was doing. No way did she or could she have washed it thoroughly filled it then washed her hands thoroughly in that amount of time anyway. Plus it was still filthy and caked in mud when she brought it back out - and she was carrying it with her hand inside it.

I think most people who have dogs have been seem to have been blinded to the grimness.

And yes to the two people who questioned Toxoplasmosis dogs are a vector for the parasite altho not a carrier because of their habits of eating and scrambling round in muck!

Always scoosh my hands with sanitiser after handling money after reading an article yonks who about how grimey it is. I find it hard to believe how germs can actually survive to be active and infective long enough on money given what it’s made of. A nice wet dog bowl on the other hand 🤮

Yes please email start it with ‘tamping!’. Then report back to us.

Do you realise you NEED germs in order to survive?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skin_flora

The utterly weird obsession this country has about using antibacterial absolutely everything is madness.

I'm baffled by the need to cleanse everything. One wonders how people coped before antibacterial crap.

You think that's bad! My 70 yr old mum was in hospital after a heart operation. The nurse dropped a bag containing urine all over the floor, cleaned it up with blue paper (without wearing gloves), then without washing his hands came to take my mum's blood.