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Finding a way through 'the avalanche of crazy' or Trump thread 96.

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lionheart · 17/09/2019 02:02

From back in Decemeber:

'This shouldn’t get lost in the avalanche of crazy. The wall we need is between DOJ and the White House. The foundation of our democracy- the rule of law- depends on it.' Sally Q. Yates.

Smile

Old thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3645518-Its-High-Crimes-and-Misdemeanours-Time-Trump-thread-no-95

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 11/10/2019 16:43

Roussette - thank whichever divinity you pray to for that!

lionheart · 11/10/2019 16:44
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Roussette · 11/10/2019 17:19

Jai indeed!

Love that NY mag front cover.

lionheart · 11/10/2019 18:33

www.politico.com/news/2019/10/11/yovanovitch-deposition-trump-ukraine-000282

'Marie Yovanovitch says Trump ousted her over "unfounded and false claims."

The ex-U.S. ambassador to Ukraine's appearance is a breakthrough for Democrats seeking details in their ongoing impeachment inquiry of Trump.'

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lionheart · 11/10/2019 18:40

'We make a difference every day on issues that matter to the
American people—whether it is war and peace, trade and
investment, or simply helping with a lost passport. We repeatedly
uproot our lives, and we frequently put ourselves in harm’s way
to serve this nation. And we do that willingly, because we believe
inAmerica and its special role inthe world. We also believe that,
inreturn,our government will have our backs and protect us if we
come under attack from foreign interests.

That basic understanding no longer holds true. Today, we see
the State Department attacked and hollowed out from within.
State Department leadership, with Congress, needs to take action
now to defend this great institution, and its thousands of loyal and
effective employees. We need to rebuild diplomacy as the first
resort to advance America’s interests and the front line of
America’s defense. I fear that not doing so will harm our nation’s
interest, perhaps irreparably.'

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lionheart · 11/10/2019 18:47

A different issue but still swampy (and poisonous).

www.newsweek.com/pesticide-linked-brain-damage-unborn-children-available-47-states-chlorpyrifos-1464425

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lionheart · 11/10/2019 18:54

Warren is a calm person.

This chap isn't:

abcnews.go.com/Politics/rudy-giulianis-relationship-arrested-men-subject-criminal-investigation/story?id=66212654

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Lweji · 11/10/2019 19:41

No words...

U.S. Urged Kurds To Dismantle Border Defenses Before Trump Announced Withdrawal

mavenroundtable.io/theintellectualist/news/u-s-urged-kurds-to-dismantle-border-defenses-before-trump-announced-withdrawal-3fdrTEvC10OWxmdXqA-0Bg/

Lweji · 11/10/2019 19:48

Bolton may publish a book soon.

www.axios.com/john-bolton-writing-book-trump-administration-c039efeb-1a3c-41c4-885f-67a9abdaa17b.html

That should be fun. Although, with any luck, it won't be relevant as Impeachment will happen first. Grin

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/10/2019 22:12

Shepard Smith Stepping Down From Fox News
www.thedailybeast.com/shepard-smith-stepping-down-from-fox-news

Fox News anchor Shepard Smith, a frequent target of President Trump’s attacks, is stepping down, the network confirmed Friday.

“Recently I asked the company to allow me to leave FOX News and begin a new chapter. After requesting that I stay, they graciously obliged. The opportunities afforded this guy from small town Mississippi have been many,” Smith said in a statement.
...
Throughout the Trump era, Smith took on a “rogue” role at the network as Fox News became overtly pro-Trump in its commentary and news coverage.
...
In addition to his role as the network’s consummate newsman and fact-checker, Smith cultivated a reputation for delivering unfiltered, decidedly un-Fox-like on-air banter. “We are America! We do not fucking torture!” he once shouted during a 2009 digital show.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/10/2019 22:17

Rudy who?

Trump won't say if Rudy Giuliani is still his attorney

'I dont know. I haven't spoken to Rudy... he has been my attorney'
twitter.com/stevennelson10/status/1182760003423424512?s=21

TheNorthWestPawsage · 11/10/2019 22:26

Well, of course he is.Hmm

Trump expressing concerns about Giuliani's ties to Ukrainians
www.cnn.com/2019/10/11/politics/donald-trump-rudy-giuliani-ukraine-fallout/index.html

AcrossthePond55 · 11/10/2019 22:45

I always kinda liked Shep Smith and felt he never really belonged at Fox. We'll see where he goes from here, but apparently he had to agree not to jump to another reporting job to get Fox to release him from his contract.

Oh, and yeah......Buh-bye, Rudy! Please turn State's Evidence. Remember what a big 'hero' you were after 9/11? Well, here's your chance to be a hero again. Sing, baby sing!

cozietoesie · 11/10/2019 22:51

Funnily, I nearly mentioned Shep earlier - as likely breathing more easily in the current Fox situation. Good luck to him.

TheClaws · 12/10/2019 01:10

Kevin McAleenan, the Acting Homeland Secretary, is leaving.

thehill.com/homenews/administration/465497-trump-announces-acting-homeland-security-secretary-kevin-mcaleenan

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TheClaws · 12/10/2019 04:09

I don’t know when this speech took place, but reportedly - and curiously - Barr met with none other than Rupert Murdoch last night. I’m not sure how the below relates to his purview at all, but it sure is strange.

The Hill @thehill
Attorney General Bill Barr: "This is not decay. This is organized destruction. Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion & traditional values."

lionheart · 12/10/2019 15:15

Barr has obviously decided to go all the way with and for Trump.

This is good news though:

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/oct/11/california-private-prison-ban-courts

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RhinoskinhaveI · 12/10/2019 18:04

Barr has obviously decided to go all the way with and for Trump
presumably because he is so compromised that he has no choice?

lionheart · 12/10/2019 19:12

Yes. Like so many of them.

It's tragic that the DOJ and other institutions have been brought to this point and so quickly.

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lionheart · 12/10/2019 19:13

It's staggering. Sad Shock Angry

Gin
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cozietoesie · 12/10/2019 20:59

Mr Melber

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