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To go to A & E for this

159 replies

Kiwidenter · 11/09/2019 14:32

So I posted on the 28th of August to see DP could be having an allergic reaction or a bug. We thought it was a bug but I don't think it was as me or DS didn't get it. On Friday last week DP started vomiting again and feeling really sick same on sat.

I don't think this was a bug either as me or son haven't got it.

Partner still doesn't feel good and he can't eat because if he eats he vomits even if it's toast. He can still drink though.

He can't go to college either. This morning he called GP and was on a wait for a call back and they said they don't have any appointments until the end of the month.

Would he bu to go to A & E. Does any of you know what it could be? Or experienced this?

OP posts:
joblotbubble · 12/09/2019 16:25

Also late teens? It's hardly a high risk age for vomiting.

Blahblahblahnanana · 12/09/2019 16:31

@joblotbubble op has stated that her partner hasn’t eaten since Tuesday morning, and that every time he eats he is sick.

Blahblahblahnanana · 12/09/2019 16:35

@Kiwidenter has he managed to see a doctor? Has he tried eating again since Tuesday morning?

BlueCornsihPixie · 12/09/2019 16:42

If he goes to A&E with vommiting it will be hours and hours of sitting in a hot waiting room. He will be low priority, he won't get seen for ages. Is a 15 minute taxi worse than A&E? Take him to the walk in

If it's just vommiting could he just not have caught 2 bugs?

My mum had this exact issue with her GP, she had pneumonia and couldn't get in to see her GP! She rang up everyday at 8am for about 3 weeks, told no GP appts for 4 weeks every time. She got to see a nurse who said "you have pneumonia here's some Abs" once and they didn't work, couldn't get in again.

In the end I think she rang up at about 3pm as she decided she might as well book a routine appointment, as it had been 3 weeks since she'd first tried and thankfully a GP overheard the call and got her in then and there!

BlueCornsihPixie · 12/09/2019 16:43

That was to all the people who don't believe the GP would say that. They do!

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 12/09/2019 17:19

I've thrown up so much blood Sad it's grim. Not to be recommended.

Fine I'm glad your friend is ok now

1FineDane · 12/09/2019 17:20

OP, MN will not advocate A&E unless your head is severed - preferably with an artery being severed too. Particularly not for a man.

Hope GP phone back was some help.

joblotbubble · 12/09/2019 17:22

op has stated that her partner hasn’t eaten since Tuesday morning, and that every time he eats he is sick.

I know. Not eating for a couple of days isn't unusual when you are sick though. It's not rush to the hospital for a drip situation.

Blahblahblahnanana · 12/09/2019 17:29

I know. Not eating for a couple of days isn't unusual when you are sick though. It's not rush to the hospital for a drip situation

I never said he did need to go to the hospital... it’s been going on for 2 weeks and needs to see a GP.

joblotbubble · 12/09/2019 17:30

OP, MN will not advocate A&E unless your head is severed - preferably with an artery being severed too. Particularly not for a man.

Nonsense. This isn't a case for A&E.

1FineDane · 12/09/2019 17:30

It's great to have a doctor like @joblotbubble here on MN.

joblotbubble · 12/09/2019 17:32

@1FineDane

Grin

The irony.

1FineDane · 12/09/2019 17:34

The fact is, if he can't stop vomiting (hoping he's still managing to keep food down), then he will need A&E. It's at what point do you go? GP can't give him an injection/can't give him IV fluids, can't do fuck all apart from to refer him to A&E or tell him to take dioralyte.

Hopefully whatever it is is just a bug and nothing more sinister.

joblotbubble · 12/09/2019 18:02

The fact is, if he can't stop vomiting

Feel like I'm talking to the proverbial wall.

OP said over 24 hours ago that he was not being sick anymore.

Graphista · 12/09/2019 18:05

Good grief! I'm generally not a fan of "what a waste of Nhs resources" but seriously?!

An adult with a tummy bug who is not dehydrated and only been ill a few days should be resting up and self treating.

If he's ill for more than a week with reasonable self care then see the practice nurse (they are more than capable of dealing with most minor ailments).

Definitely not necessary to go to a&e!

"I can't believe anyone is told to wait almost three weeks for a gp appointment" why on earth not? Perfectly normal at the moment in many parts of uk. Are you not in uk?

"A&E isn't a replacement for your car ffs

The OP isn't suggesting it is." Actually they pretty much are! Which IS ridiculous

Op - any connection to having eaten food from the same fast food/takeaway on both occasions?

"He is allergic to dairy but he hasn't had dairy recently. And If he does accidently have dairy an allergic reaction only lasts about a day." Bit of a dripfeed! Possible cross contamination issue? Change to a regularly used products ingredients? He could easily react worse if he normally successfully avoids the allergen.

And then we learn there's a bite that might be a factor!

"not wanting to scare you but a relative had kidney issues following a stomach bug. symptoms were similar to your dp." Of ffs utter nonsense!

Op for goodness sake your dp needs to give gp surgery ALL potentially relevant information so they can properly assess his need.

Has he even asked for nurse appointment? Telephone consultation?

timshelthechoice · 12/09/2019 18:22

That's what gets me, is the people who won't take a nurse practitioner appointment. Why not? I just had another endoscopy (now on treatment for 2 stomach ulcers). Couldn't get in to see the GP (I have already had a scope to diagnose my GERD last year and needed to see someone because over 6 weeks the acid had started to get bad again despite the 20mg of esomaprazole I was on, I also had excess belching, nausea and satiety but had my gallbladder removed three years ago so knew it was not that) but they offered me a nurse practitioner appointment. When you need to see someone, you see whatever HCP who's there! She examined me, then got the GP who examined me and referred me for another scope where they found the ulcers.

If you go to A&E unless you're a serious emergency or accident you'll see a nurse first for triage anyway.

Namechangeforthiscancershit · 12/09/2019 18:34

Has OP been offered a nurse practitioner appointment? That is definitely something to ask for if not

Idea86 · 13/09/2019 12:17

Call 111, they will book you an GP appointment elsewhere.

I can't believe you even considered A&E. Switch the noggin on and be altruistic for a moment.

Recently I was about to have a cardiac arrest, I still um'ed and ar'ed about driving to my GP surgery and begging for an appointment first... Less than 6 minutes later, I was in resus unconscious being worked on.

Idea86 · 13/09/2019 12:18

I drove to A&E, 6 minutes later*

KittyAuthentic · 13/09/2019 17:14

I'm the OP but forgot my password

Today he managed to get into the doctors and they don't know the cause yet but they did tell him to try anti sickness but not sure if they work as they don't work for his travel sickness. We spoke to his dad after his appointment and his dad suggested it could be anxiety (he isn't a doctor though he just thought so he wasn't diagnosing it) because when DP was a child he used to complain about feeling sick before he went anywhere he didn't like/never went to/didn't go for a long time (for example school when it was a first day after the holidays, a birthday party, a holiday, an appointment etc). So could this be anxiety? They told DP to make an appointment if the anti sickness doesn't help.

timshelthechoice · 13/09/2019 17:40

Could be.

Todaythiscouldbe · 13/09/2019 17:42

Yes it could be anxiety. It could be a bug, it could be an allergy, it could be a migraine.

Graphista · 13/09/2019 17:53

It definitely could be anxiety. The mind is a powerful part of the body and can induce physical symptoms.

I have MH issues myself and if I'm very distressed I get really horrific diarrhoea. Anxiety can also cause for me strong palpitations, nausea, dizziness, fainting (which I'm prone to anyway as I have POTS and a natural tendency to VERY low blood pressure).

Is the anti sickness medication he's been given the same as he's tried before? And even if so the same dose?

Because different meds work for different people and sometimes a simple change like a higher dose can help too.

He could also consider home/natural remedies in addition to the medication (providing the med info leaflet doesn't say contraindicated)

Things like:

Herbal teas (ginger and peppermint are the obvious ones but if anxiety is a possible cause there are some that can help with anxiety too - peppermint is supposed to help with that too, as is chamomile, rose, lavendar)

Aromatherapy

Self massage (many of us do this instinctively to self soothe)

Regular but "peaceful" exercise, the obvious one that will spring to people's minds is yoga (which is a damn sight harder than it looks!) but also simple things like walking, swimming

Having a good sleep schedule (I massively struggle with this but might help him)

Cut out caffeine - I've done this and I've really noticed an improvement

Cut out alcohol - people tend to think of it as a sedative/relaxant but it's actually a stimulant too and can cause anxiety symptoms. Family/friends have discovered kind of by default that for them certain drinks make them anxious and others don't

Cut out smoking - again a stimulant but can also affect the stomach, many don't realise.

Some "normal" foods and drink can increase/reduce anxiety too.

Calming foods are those that contain omega 3 & 6, vitamin d, iron, selenium, tryptophan. Mainly dairy (sorry he's allergic isn't he?) nuts& seeds and oily fish - how's his diet?

Also even from a purely physical point of view certain foods can cause nausea

For me there are a few that do that, some spicy food, citrus fruits, some berries, certain nuts.

Might be useful to keep a food diary, he may have developed another food allergy?

Regarding his dad's comments though is it possible something in the environment of the place he's going to is triggering nausea?

I have asthma but it doesn't always present as wheezing/breathlessness but certain airborn/aerosolised things can trigger a nausea based reaction.

Cryalot2 · 13/09/2019 18:21

Dr appointments are impossible to get. At least you have a start.
Unfortunate that the tablets don't work.
I use cyclizine regularly. Which is great.
Adult daughter has been feeling sick last week and I remembered she was bad last year with similar which was caused by bad stress and anxiety.
Just a thought, would sea sickness bands work? My local pharmacist is my first port of call.

KittyAuthentic · 13/09/2019 19:12

He could have a new allergen but on Friday he had different food to the Tuesday the only thing he had the same was cereal but he had that when he wasn't vomiting.

It's a different medication I think.

On the Tuesday he started feeling sick and had a headache we were at home but last friday he started feeling sick when he was at college.

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