To think this teacher is chatting bollocks?

[beahunnywashyourtummy]

DNiece (sensible girl, not a bullshitter), came home today a bit upset because her Art teacher? Has threatened to move her down to a low set which would therefore lower her English and Maths set.

In short, the Art teacher said if she didn't improve or start paying more attention, she'd move her down to set 4. DNiece is currently a Set 1 pupil which is top set and set via your standard of Maths and English.

DNiece asked how she could do that since Art was an option subject overall and Maths and English were not. Apparently the Art teacher said she didn't care and she'd move her down if she felt she was poor enough Art wise.

Surely this can't be a thing?

She's always been brilliant at Maths/English and has great reports, genuine interest in
Those subjects and clearly does well marks wise. I just don't see how an Art teacher could move her for art and directly impact two core subjects.

@AuntieStella well said!

What’s “arrant” bollocks?

The same as complete nonsense but calling it arrant bollocks makes you sound cleverer and cooler.

What @Pinkyyy said

What with "none of your beeswax" and "chatting bollocks" the entire thread seems to be reverting to the nursery.

Fascinated by all these virtuous Mumsnetters who always paid attention in class and never played up.

Its your Dniece that is the issue here, as the conversation has got to the stage of "if you act like this in other subjects you will be moved down" and she is still back chatting.

No, that's not what was said. From what we've been told, what was said is along he lines of "if you continue to be this way in Art, you'll be moved down elsewhere"

Fascinated by all these virtuous Mumsnetters who always paid attention in class and never played up.

I didn’t see anyone claim that.

From what we've been told, what was said is along he lines of "if you continue to be this way in Art, you'll be moved down elsewhere"

And your reaction is to conclude that the teacher is “chatting bollocks” rather than that your DN should stop dicking about?

Anyway, just to clarify, DNiece doesn't enjoy Art. She's got top marks in written pieces but seems to be piss poor at the 'art'.

Generally very chatty but not in a bad way. She's always getting extremely good feedback for her participation in class discussion and bring up valid points. I've seen the reports and attended a few of her parents evenings. None of which have described her as 'chatty'. Just a very good participant in class discussion.

We will know a bit more later on as her mum is off to the school to find out what's gone on (it's really upset and frustrated DNiece).

She's speaking to the head of year who's okay to speak with her before 9.

I cant even comprehend how someone can be so over invested in their brother/sisters child to want to (quote) go rummaging in the school website.

'chatting bollocks' ? you sound about 12, oh hang on you are the brat child arent you?

We will know a bit more later on as her mum is off to the school to find out what's gone on (it's really upset and frustrated DNiece).

Classic case of child manipulating credulous adults to re-direct the conversation away from her behaviour and towards the teacher’s.

Generally very chatty but not in a bad way.

How do you know what she's like in her art class? Kids can behave totally differently in different classes.

Love the up date that we are all going to get third hand. This does not affect you, it has no impact on you, you are relaying all this twaddle third hand. Far too over involved. WTF drags auntie to parent evening ?

head/slam/desk<

Christ alive.

Classic case of child manipulating credulous adults to re-direct the conversation away from her behaviour and towards the teacher’s.

Exactly what I thought.

Don't get the issue with op saying "just an art teacher". That's not denigrating being an art teacher, it's simply saying she is just an art teacher with no special extra jobs such as being HOD, but some people are clearly sore

chatting bollocks' ? you sound about 12, oh hang on you are the brat child arent you?

I'm in my 20s and use "he was chatting shit" pretty regularly.

It doesn’t sound like the teacher is saying she’ll get moved because she’s poor at art if you continue this way in art sounds like your niece is being disruptive in the class.

How would you suggest the teacher deals with a disruptive student. Your niece might not like art but being in the hugest set does mean that she’ll be with students who do like their art classes and actually want to take it as their options.
I was under the understanding that art in year 9 is mandatory just like English and maths.

What do your neices Parents have to say about things as surely they are the people who should be stopping her being a PITA in class and why are you over involved and your title about talking bollocks shows immaturity

Re-read your update and I see you put before 9 and not head of year 9.
Did your niece chose this as an option for her GCSEs? In which case, why did she pick a subject she doesn’t like

So she's in year 8, has already repeatedly disrupted learning to the point where staff are considering class moves.

It might be that she's facing a move to whichever other year 8 class is blocked at the same time in the timetable.

In recent years I've had badly behaved/disruptive students moved up into my higher class with better behaviour. The students were in lower groups due to their attainment (caused by behaviour) and I was asked if I'd take them into mine, bit of additional support and try to support turning them round. Sometimes moves can be good. But lower sets shouldn't become a dumping ground for badly behaved and disruptive students whose family will back them.

Classic case of child manipulating credulous adults to re-direct the conversation away from her behaviour and towards the teacher’s.
Yes.
Isn't it lovely for the usual "child disrupts/ignores instructions/back hats etc but it's not their fault, blame the teacher" threads to be back.

Isn't it lovely for the usual "child disrupts/ignores instructions/back hats etc but it's not their fault, blame the teacher" threads to be back.

How I’ve missed them. 🙄

herculepoirot2
If the page Angry People in Local Newspapers is to be relied on we are getting into the "home you go" season for uniform gripes too.

If the page Angry People in Local Newspapers is to be relied on we are getting into the "home you go" season for uniform gripes too.

“My child is missing out on their education, just because of a pair of leggings. They’re exactly the same colour as the school trousers.”

🙄

"just an art teacher..." 🤔

Apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Bet your DNiece is super polite and respectful, not full of herself at all and in no way deserves to be threatened with any sanction for rude behaviour.

Well if she's naturally shit at art improving with be close to impossible but paying attention is easy enough. I can see why she'd be moved down as it sounds like she's struggling in top set as well not showing attention. She may do better in a lower set.

If your niece doesn't want to be moved or told off she should pay attention and work with the teacher for support on improving.