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To think Brexit has damaged the country's mental health?

269 replies

KennDodd · 09/09/2019 08:23

I know it's damaged mine but my job was under threat (colleagues lost their jobs instead) because of Brexit so not surprising. I think Brexit has caused huge stress, anxiety and anger in the country. David Cameron should be ashamed.

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longwayoff · 09/09/2019 10:47

I have rarely been so depressed, it's soul destroying watching the buffoons posturing. It would be a relief to be able to laugh at the many claimants bawling 'we voted for no deal' but it's long ceased to be funny.

MrPan · 09/09/2019 10:49

Are we STILL describing Corbyn as a communist? And would damage the UK?
FFS give your head a wobble and look around at what is actually happening to our govt and society.

Yes my well-being is adversely affected by this shit show. I don't want a right wing govt, and I don't want the unleashing of the racists shit that me and MrsPan (Pakistani) have already suffered. We even talked about at what point we would leave the country and where we would go. Just shit.

LightsInOtherPeoplesHouses · 09/09/2019 10:49

Everyone I know talks about Brexit.

Yes, I'm worried. I'm worried a no deal Brexit will mean shortages of the medication DH needs, he'd be dead in a week without it. I'm worried about my job.

I'm concerned at how we've gone from 'no deal won't happen' in 2016 to the current 'no deal is the ONLY option and anything else isn't Brexit'.

I'm also worried that no Brexit would lead to even more of a swing to the right in this country and would be playing into the hands of some very nasty people.

Basically I can't see anyway of there being a positive outcome, whether it's a deal, no deal or no Brexit.

I believe it is the better off who will be affected.by Brexit which makes a change as those not better off have had less chances for quite a while.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this. You think poorer people won't suffer if food prices rise? You think poorer people won't lose their jobs?

And let's not forget some wealthy people have and will benefit financially from Brexit...

BeyondMyWits · 09/09/2019 10:51

The only bonus is that the Tories are crumbling before our very eyes

but are STILL ahead in the polls.

Corbyn is damaging for Labour. Party members should be looking and thinking maybe we get someone actually electable by Labour supporters (let alone any swing voters).

PeppermintSoda · 09/09/2019 10:53

How many people read the papers these days? Not many Lots. Many read them online or in articles shared or in their SM newsfeed.

ShatnersWig · 09/09/2019 10:53

Jilly 3.8 million voted for them. Out of 45 million eligible to vote. So not even 10% of the electorate. Of course it didn't have to happen. Why didn't all of the 52% vote UKIP in 2015? Whether it would have happened EVENTUALLY is another matter but based on percentages, probably a couple of generations away at least. There was no need for it to happen when it did.

MrPan · 09/09/2019 10:53

Corbyn IS a problem for Labour and the country. Starmer or Cooper would be A LOT better re prospects but that is'nt likely to happen currently.

longwayoff · 09/09/2019 10:57

Speaking from complete ignorance here, is there any chance that at the forthcoming Labour conference Corbyn will gracefully retire and leave the post open for someone seen as a moderate? and would he/she have any chance of the party voting for them?

Kazzyhoward · 09/09/2019 11:08

Jilly 3.8 million voted for them. Out of 45 million eligible to vote. So not even 10% of the electorate. Of course it didn't have to happen.

It was still 50% more than who voted for libdems, the traditional 3rd place party who only got 2.4 million votes!

If Cameron hadn't promised a referendum, UKIP would have got even more votes and some seats, maybe more than the libdems who got 8 seats with far fewer votes.

UKIP were a growing threat and Cameron promising a referendum was a way to neutralise that threat.

colouringinpro · 09/09/2019 11:14

YADNBU

As others have said it has widened rifts and made increased racism and xenophobia

Personally I've found it's worsened my anxiety. We as a family have medication needs (some already low stock) and use the NHS a lot. I don't think the NHS will survive Brexit. And the UK may disintegrate.

Drabarni · 09/09/2019 11:17

It may have contributed but the poor mh of people in this country has been growing since before Brexit.

transformandriseup · 09/09/2019 11:22

Not unreasonable. We had the radio on at work everyday and hearing about it on the news and talk shows was driving me insane.

AnneWeber · 09/09/2019 11:26

Agreed ShatnersWig. There was no need for it. At the point of the referendum no living PM who'd been elected had been in favour of leaving the EU. And yet here we are in this mess.

transformandriseup · 09/09/2019 11:29

Also I’m fed up of hearing my friends/family’s opinions about it on Facebook. Everyone is entitled to an opinion but I’m done with brexit memes being shared. Even Robot Chicken has a sketch on it.

Paintedmaypole · 09/09/2019 11:30

The rhetoric has built up to a point that any politician taking a compromise position( Theresa May and Corbyn both being examples) are berated. No deal is now being seen as a pure brexit. It's ridiculous and damaging. Also I am still waiting to see if anyone can tell me which of Corbyn's policies suggest he is a communist. If Corbyn was acting in the same dictatorial, illeberal way that Johnson is the press would go wild.

canveyisland · 09/09/2019 11:38

If I thought I could do anything about it Brexit would bother me, but I can't so I try hard not to let it even though it has affected me financially. I think that will be the lasting effect but I have deal with that.

Like this lady:

minesagin37 · 09/09/2019 11:42

I really strongly believe Cameron should have to face a public inquiry. He has cost the country billions and make thousands suffer but has got off Scott free!

Kazzyhoward · 09/09/2019 11:43

At the point of the referendum no living PM who'd been elected had been in favour of leaving the EU.

No one ever votes for the PM. We vote for the MPs and it's the MP's and party members who vote for the party leader who becomes PM if their party is elected.

As the results of the referendum show, there were a great number of constituencies who voted overwhelmingly to leave, but who's MP has voted consistently against leaving. That's not democracy. MPs have been glibly ignoring the voters in their constituency. That's been happening for a long time, long before the referendum. In lots of areas, the voters had no choice - the candidates from all 3 major parties were all pro EU - what "choice" did the voters have to vote against the EU? None. Hence why people started to vote UKIP instead. For a long term, Parliament has been London Centric - they major parties parachuted London politicians into safe seats across the country instead of using local candidates. And then they wonder why the country is so polarised? Quite simply, huge numbers of voters outside London and the SE have been feeling that they have no say and no true representation. That frustration manifested itself in the referendum which I believe was more of a protest vote against the london centric political elite rather than the EU. And yet the politicians still don't get it!

Thereisasystem · 09/09/2019 11:44

MrPan Flowers. Heartbreaking, I don't want anyone feeling like and MrsPan are Sad.

My mental health is suffering without a doubt, I feel utterly sad, anxious and distressed about everything Brexit. Watching this stretch on indefinitely is just so depressing, I don't want to hate the No Dealers but boy it's hard not to...

AnneLovesGilbert · 09/09/2019 11:44

I’m amazed at people saying no one they know talks about it in real life. Everyone I know talks about it all the time. It’s had a huge impact on mine and DH work and still no one really knows what the longer term impact could be, even if we get a deal, because the shock waves have spread so far and been so deep. Clearly an awful lot of people are morbidly fascinated:

www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/sep/06/bbc-parliament-the-ratings-hit-thats-big-brother-meets-24-with-added-bercow

Kazzyhoward · 09/09/2019 11:46

he rhetoric has built up to a point that any politician taking a compromise position( Theresa May and Corbyn both being examples) are berated.

The MPs have only themselves to blame for not agreeing a more reasonable compromise withdrawal agreement. They had 3 years to come to a consensus, but just played politics with each other instead. They are a disgrace and if they had any shame they'd all resign en-bloc and leave the entire HOC clear for a new group of MPs without the baggage.

Kazzyhoward · 09/09/2019 11:47

I’m amazed at people saying no one they know talks about it in real life. Everyone I know talks about it all the time.

What part of the country are you from?

Thereisasystem · 09/09/2019 11:49

I have a few friends that talk about it a lot, one in particular. It strikes me that we are a microcosm of real life, she's a leaver and I'm a remainer, we've discussed non stop for 4 years and not managed to agree on any of it.....it truly is an impossible conundrum

Helmetbymidnight · 09/09/2019 11:54

I don't think its a 'what part of the country thing', is it?

Its a: if you are a thinking/political person thing.

Kazzyhoward · 09/09/2019 11:54

it truly is an impossible conundrum

The answer is, of course, a compromise. Unfortunately, neither the EU negotiators nor the UK parliament seem to have any real intention of compromising.