Prince Harry - AIBU?

[barniee]

Prince Harry saying "we can all do better" has really irked me- aibu?! He has every want and need satisfied while the majority of us and trying to do right by the environment whilst making ends meet. He is becoming very sanctimonious!

She’s seen as being ... thrifty because she IS.

Lol.

Is thrifty the new frugal?

*err on the side of caution.

To be clear, none of the royals are anything remotely resembling thrifty or frugal. Why would they be?

I saw princess Anne in a train. I actually nicked her newspaper still feel abit guilty when I see her.

She was on maternity leave when she went to Wimbledon. 5 weeks (something like that) after having a baby. Have any other royals gone in those circumstances?
What examples or this “look at me don’t look at me” thing have you seen?

Thrifty ol’ Anne!

If your security team seriously believe you are at risk of a Neo Nazi assassination plot, yet they allow someone who was actually taking a selfie to get so close, you should be changing your team.
Can't comment on Kate and her human shield thing as I've never heard anything about that.
Don't see how maternity leave has anything to do with anything? If you are famous and you decide to attend a public event, people might take photos.
How many examples do you require in order for me to have an opinion Bertrand?
I'm not spending all day arguing the toss.
That's currently the view I hold.

Re Princess Anne, she does have a reputation for being the hardest working royal but did she do as much when she was the same age as Kate and Meghan and raising a young family?

“How many examples do you require in order for me to have an opinion Bertrand? ”
You can have as many opinions as you like. But if you present them as fact then more than one dodgy example might be good!

The media has not called out Charles for his environmental hypocrisy with such vitriol as they have Harry and Meghan

Admittedly I'm an old gimmer, but while I can't know the age of others here it does seem that there are some short memories about - either that or folk become so wrapped up in the "latest thing" that it gets hard to see the bigger picture. Granted social media's made some things worse, but the attacks on Charles over the years have been just as extensive (and since he's heir, probably more damaging)

Someone mentioned his friendship with Jimmy Savile, and while it's just possible he was unaware of that particular horror's crimes, he certainly wasn't of Peter Ball's ... and yet he provided the bishop with a home even after his filthy abuse was known

So now you’re equating Meghan’s behaviour with being friends with Jimmy Saville??????

People definitely do have short memories the flak Charles got over his interfering letters to parliament being one. He got roundly trounced in the press for that and quite rightly.

I specifically remember a NOTW double page spread on Fergie in which she was unfavourably compared to Diana and it detailed designers who were 'horrified' to provide dresses for her because her weight would distort the aesthetic of the clothes. Then there were pics of the dresses on the models then the same dresses on Fergie.

The reason I remember it even though I was young at the time is specifically because it was so mean.

I'm of an age (unfortunately) that I remember all the press going back years. The only royal that got anywhere as much hate as Meghan is Fergie (back in the days before social media). Charles did not get as much stick for environmental issues as Harry and Meghan do.

It seems that Charles and Saville, Andrew and Epstein is okay and not worth a bit of in depth reporting, but Harry and Meghan took private flights (not on the "Lolita Express" I note) and made the blunder of lecturing on the environment. Can't see how they are equivalent. Can someone explain it to me?

It’s down to the lecturing and the double standards employed - aka hypocrisy.

It’s down to the lecturing and the double standards employed - aka hypocrisy.

Which Charles has indulged in very regularly over the years.

William too to some extent.

So the lecturing and hypocrisy about the environment is equivalent to Prince Andrew and Epstein? Charles and Saville? How so?

As for hypocrisy on the environment as @LaurieMarlow has pointed out, who could be more hypocritical than Charles?

William got some sort of “friend to the environment” award while they were expecting their third child. Harry got marmelized for a throwaway, joky remark about only having two. Go, as they say, figure.

Didn't William give a speech warning of the dangers of overpopulation while Kate was pregnant with Louis? I don't remember that resulting in several threads on Mumsnet and pages and pages of press coverage.

@zonkin
Charles did not get as much stick for environmental issues as Harry and Meghan do.

Because Charles has spent years and years practicing what he preaches when it comes to organic farming, biodiversity and responsible property development, even at a time when it wasn’t as fashionable as it is now. He gets flamed by the media when he oversteps the mark, like wading into the Duke of York development affair, but he has earned respect for properly knowing his stuff and sticking to his guns.

If he has a weakness on environmental issues it probably is travel, because he does all those long haul diplomatic trips which the Queen can’t any more. But to be fair (and I am no big PoW fan) you don’t hear him lecture the taxpayer about our travel choices, and he doesn’t seem to be a fan of nipping off to Ibiza on private jets.

I get the feeling you'd decide they were all 'dodgy examples '
@BertrandRussell

Those private jets were an absolute godsend to the Haghan haters. For the first time they have something concrete to pin their hate on!

Because Charles has spent years and years practicing what he preaches

Um, sure about that? 80 miles ffs.

www.independent.co.uk/news/people/prince-charles-burns-13-tons-of-carbon-in-private-helicopter-after-urging-public-to-turn-off-lights-10147440.html

Because Charles has spent years and years practicing what he preaches when it comes to organic farming, biodiversity and responsible property development, even at a time when it wasn’t as fashionable as it is now Yes he has.
Meghan and Harry have made PR blunders. They're not evil just irritating. I'm sure they'll be fine once they bed in so to speak. The agent of Satan the DM has some positive wee stories today.

Who in what universe is saying the A&E situation is ok? Even the DM has covered it as robustly as they dare and I say dare because even in their coverage they've had to say the words 'allege' 'appears' and 'reportedly' 1 trillion times even under pictures that blatantly show A with his arm very comfortably and familiarly around the midriff of a 17 year old.

But (without trying to get all flat earthy conspiracy) these sorts of allegations when it comes to high profile people get buried. I refer anyone to the debacle which is the sex abuse enquiry, which anyone of even a slightly pessimistic nature knew would become a mess.

What realistically can be done re PA when the man who was meant to testify dies under somewhat extremely dodgy unfortunate circumstances even when on special suicide watch with guards at the door?

I mean its not like he's going to really have an investigation done into him is it? So what is the point?

I suspect the newspapers know as much.