Prince Harry - AIBU?

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Prince Harry saying "we can all do better" has really irked me- aibu?! He has every want and need satisfied while the majority of us and trying to do right by the environment whilst making ends meet. He is becoming very sanctimonious!

Congrats Iced, you’ve done a really good job in memorising that Tumblr jargon chart!

And congrats to you for once again proving that all the Meghanistas have is whataboutery and strawman accusations.

Any updates on those letters patent btw?

Yes, I do - he is automatically entitled to use one of Harry's subsidiary titles, like Earl of Dumbarton.

That's not a royal title. What titles did were actually offered and refused?

Unlike all the Cambridge’s and H&M, Archie is not, nor likely to be, a working royal.

He’s not in the main line of succession. He’s a private citizen. Therefore different rules apply.

Quite why everyone wants a piece of him I don’t know. He’s the Peter Philips of the new generation.

What titles did were actually offered and refused?

That’s the title they refused.

An Earl is just one rank lower than a Duke.

He’s the Peter Philips of the new generation.

Indeed, although he'll presumably inherit the Sussex title one day.

And pointing out what other royals have done is not whatabouttery.

H&M are often criticised for perfectly regular royal behaviour.

It doesn’t make that behaviour ok obviously. But if it’s never bothered ppl before, you have to question what is it about H&M doing it that’s suddenly so offensive.

I’d love to know about any privacy demands that do not involve the baby.

She was a D list cable TV actress with only one role of any note to her name - and that on a 'meh' show filmed in Toronto

I always wonder why people are determined to such dicks about her career.

She did well. Featured cast on a major TV show. I know lots of wannabe actors. Anyone of them would give their right arm for a part like that.

“I always wonder why people are determined to such dicks about her career.”

As if somehow supporting herself in a very precarious profession for pushing 20 years is somehow less worthy than living a life of privilege on inherited wealth.....

Do we disbelieve Harry when he says they only use private planes when it’s a matter of security?

Personally yes, I'm afraid I do disbelieve it. I'm the first to say I can't prove it either way, so my view's based on the deep vein of entitlement which runs through the whole family, and which Harry's already exhibiting in spades

Presumably that means when there is an actual threat identified by their security staff. That should be easy enough to prove, surely?

And this is exactly why I can't prove it ... whatever silly claims are made by their principals, decent security staff don't tend to blab publicly about specifics of threats and nor should they

She did well. Featured cast on a major TV show. I know lots of wannabe actors. Anyone of them would give their right arm for a part like that.

Did she do well compared to the vast majority of actors who have to make ends meet waiting on tables? Absolutely. Good for her.

But if you'd bothered to read the post I was responding to, you'd see that that was not the point. The poster was claiming it was some big sacrifice for Meghan to give up her acting career in favour of an A list existence with the types of fame, perks, prestige and luxuries she could never have come close to experiencing as a minor TV actress.

This was not a case of Grace Kelly giving up Hollywood to marry Prince Rainier. This was a massive trade-up for Meghan in just about every way.

“Personally yes, I'm afraid I do disbelieve it. I'm the first to say I can't prove it either way, so my view's based on the deep vein of entitlement which runs through the whole family, and which Harry's already exhibiting in spades”
Well, nobody can prove anything of course. But it does seem a bit odd to suddenly do 4 private planes in two weeks after using commercial up to then.

Is Harry exhibiting more entitlement than any of the others? That’s what it comes back to, isn’r It? H and M seem to get pilloried for behaving exactly the same as all the others.

IcedPurple that was a decent point you made about savings in security costs if the number of "working royals" was trimmed

I'm still not entirely convinced they wouldn't find a way of helping themselves to this if they fancied it, but at least it's something we might hope for one day

I can’t think why you would have to use such derogatory language and paint her success in the most negative of possible lights to make that point.

Oh wait

Maybe but her career would have progressed. I sometimes wonder if Meghan misses her previous life, I know she now has a child and a lovely husband but life cannot be as interesting as it once was.
She earned a lot and was well off, she certainly didn't marry for money.

It's really strange but when M&H were engaged and then married, everyone was all over them. I really hate the way the media turn against people, it's damaging. Aren't we all glad we can live our lives out of the glare of publicity?

The duchess is still on maternity leave. I think the couple should be left alone, they haven't actually done anything terribly wrong. I can see them leaving England for America if the nastiness continues. There's a limit to what anyone can take.

“The poster was claiming it was some big sacrifice for Meghan to give up her acting career in favour of an A list existence ”

Well yes, that is clearly bonkers.

I’m sure she had a great life in Toronto. Certainly better than Kate who seemed to have literally nothing better to do with herself than wait for a ring.

I think 4 months is too young to leave a baby but that's because I couldn't have done it as I breast fed exclusively until mine were 6 months.

Is Harry exhibiting more entitlement than any of the others? That’s what it comes back to, isn’t it? H and M seem to get pilloried for behaving exactly the same as all the others

I agree up to a point, Bertrand - but then I struggle to find anything to admire about almost any of them

Certainly some of it's down to H&M being in the spotlight as the latest thing, and no doubt the media's focus will shift when they find something "tastier" as it did with Andrew's appalling choices. Taken in total, though, their blend of entitlement, hypocrisy, profligacy, tone deafness and taste for trashy celebs does seem rather worse than some others - with the obvious exceptions of Charles and Andrew, who let's face it have also been roundly criticised for decades

“I think 4 months is too young to leave a baby”

That really is super bollocks.

“Trashy celebrities”?

How about the entirely admirable charities they both support?

And I know I get into trouble for asking for examples of things- but how are they more entitled and profligate than W and K? And what does “tone deaf” mean?