If we have a General Election?

[Gin96]

How many of you would vote Labour if we had a General Election, just wondering as there have been a few negative comments on here about Labour recently

LaVieille you must have British friends who are as appalled as you are?

I know some of you hate it. But what are you going to do about it?

I live in a safe Tory seat. Loads of horsey types about. But even in areas like mine, there's still more working class people than upper middle/upper class people. They COULD vote the Tories out, they CHOOSE not to, for some reason. Passiveness and apathy I guess. But... that's your business.

@ LaVieille Out of interest which country would you go to if you left the UK?

Because nobody wants Corbyn running the country. Change the Leadership of Labour and people would change their vote

I can go anywhere really. Anywhere will have me. Australia had my father 6 years ago and he's quite happy there. I'm multilingual, so won't have any problems in French-speaking or German-speaking countries. And if you've taught yourself to speak 3 languages other than your native tongue, there's no reason you can't learn a 4th. So Scandinavia is also an option.

To those people who say you won't vote: please think again. Many safe Conservative seats will cease to be safe if the Brexit Party (well, the other Brexit party) puts up candidates. If the hardcore no-deal vote is split there is possibly a chance of a rational candidate being elected.

@LaVieilleHarpie I agree with your sentiments but why do you have to put it so unpleasantly and be so insulting.

I hate what is going on in this country at the moment and there are a great many people here who feel the same way.

I didn't vote to leave, I'm very pro EU and frankly I fear for the future if and when we do eventually leave.

An election won't fix anything. We're screwed whatever happens.

You're lucky you have the option to leave. Like many other people here, I don't have that option. I have no other nationality and I'm too old for any other country to take me. So here I stay.

One of my DCs moved to another European country a number of years ago and is settled there. He certainly wouldn't come back here.

You might want to think before your sling insults around about the people in the country in which you chose to settle. I'm sure you'd be extremely offended if people insulted the people of your birth country in such a way.

There are stupid arrogant people all over the world. Many of us in Britain are neither stupid nor arrogant.

For me, the risk of Scottish independence is worse than Brexit by a long way, as the economic damage to Scotland would be massively greater.
I’m in a very marginal Scottish seat (majority of only 23) so I have to vote Tory as the only credible way to get the SNP out.

And many longer term immigrants voted for brexit.

Gin, tories will hold thier nose and align with brexit party. There's no other way

Tory + brexit party votes = clear lead, over anything else left.

@Babdoc I think Tories are a bigger risk to the union than SNP.

Govt want no deal. If we no deal Scotland will most likely vote for independence.

@pigsDOfly - but the British DO insult the people of my birth country all the bloody time! In fact we were often cited as one of the reasons why people voted for Brexit! Over the last 15 years it's been endless overt or covert xenophobia for me, and since the referendum, well, the less said the better. it's not at all pleasant to be an immigrant here. Don't be surprised that we return the favour.

I've just stopped caring about Britain and the British. I used to. I used to be very involved in my local community, doing things and campaigning for improvement. But our work, our emotional labour, and our taxes ain't good enough for you, rulers of the world, huh? We're just the immigrants, the 'other', and the scapegoats. That's why I'm done caring about you. Sink or swim, I don't care. Us locusts will just go and do the work the natives wouldn't touch somewhere else.

I’m sorry you’ve been put through this, I truly am, I apologise on behalf of the British people. I’m sorry you haven’t been appreciated for all your efforts you have put into the UK.

I can’t understand why you stay here though when you have a choice to move somewhere better?

Cause it's a lot of mither, as you can probably imagine.

I'd vote conservative

I agree with gin

Im honestly sorry that people feel that they have to leave the country or that they are not welcome

Must be a horrible feeling and not one that i ever thought my country would make anyone experience

All the parties are a nightmare, cynical, self serving and dishonest. I won't vote at all, or vote greens.

I get really pissed off with people who don’t vote because they live in safe seats. If everyone opposed to the incumbent voted, even if the opposition lost, it may influence the incumbents behaviour.

People not bothering to vote resulted in Brexit.

If I had a proper choice - under proportional representation - I'd vote Green, but under the system we have I'd rather vote to get the Conservatives out, and so will vote Labour as their policies are pretty good.

I don't think Jeremy Corbyn has done himself any favours in the way he communicates with the press, BUT every time I've seen a clip from a live speech, and going by his voting record, I do think he's a decent person who genuinely cares.

It worries me though that people might judge him based on this negative view of his personality. I always go by policies + voting records, and not by how charismatic the leader is.

No point in me voting Labour. I'm voting LibDem but we're already that here so won't make any difference to the Tory majority in parliament.

Would love to see Dominic Raab go in Esher though as he's such a poster boy for Brexit in a Remain constituency.

It's also a bit depressing being lumped together with the Little Englanders when I've lived abroad, speak another European language. Bloody love the EU. Went on the march. Voted Remain.

Believe me, it's pretty shit when you despise a large proportion of your own people. I'm not leaving because my friends and family are all here and I'm long in the tooth. But if I was in twenties I'd definitely consider it. To me the 'we want our sovereignty back' brigade are as foreign to me and my values as it is possible to be.

Carthage Same here. I live in a Leave voting area so we all get tarred with the same brush, unfortunately.

I may have the option of dual citizenship with another EU country, but leaving would mean leaving my mum to cope with my brother all alone. He has a host of health problems and autism to boot, and we try to offer respite care where we can so mum and my stepdad get a break. No one else in the family will do this for them. It would also mean leaving FiL alone as he was widowed a couple of years ago - we’re the relatives who live closest to him. We’ll go if we have to, but I don’t want to. I like living here. It’s just unfortunate that the politics of the area are so diametrically opposed to my own.

Of course if the medication that dbro needs to keep him alive is affected by all this, well... I can’t help but think that the Tories and the Brexiteers would see that as a positive benefit to the whole situation. Let’s face it, they aren’t brimming with compassion for their fellow humans, are they? Just one less mouth to feed, in their view.

I don’t even feel angry any more. Just very, very tired and sad.

Well the EU want to charge us £1biilions a month for an extension after 31st October, I think they have had enough, we will definitely be leaving the EU on the 31st October now, those that can leave the UK I would get out now as this is going to get so much worse 😢

Well the EU want to charge us £1biilions a month for an extension after 31st October, I think they have had enough, we will definitely be leaving the EU on the 31st October now, those that can leave the UK I would get out now as this is going to get so much worse 😢

Well no shit, Sherlock! We currently pay £1 billion per month (roughly) to the EU. If we ask for an extension, we will continue to pay roughly £1 billion a month until we leave. You didn't seriously believe this was some sort of extra sum we were being charged, did you?
Of course, none of this takes into account the money we receive back from the EU, which we will still receive if we ask for an extension until we actually do leave.

Is the £1billions figure claimed to be the case from Dom Raab? Dom doesn't so much as lie, but just spouts whaterver he has been told to spout. I say this as the BBC fact checkers are indicating the figure is much lower.
And of course doesn't account for our financial benefits from being a member state.