to think "everyone will have the food they need" is a way of saying that food choice will be limited

[chomalungma]

It's what Gove said this morning when asked about food after Brexit.

"Everyone will have the food they need"

I am sure that's true....and who needs a wide choice of food anyway.

What’s going to happen to the wine shelves. That’s a huge worry too. No more Pinot Grigio

Aye, but we get our country back.

or something

Blibbyblobby shops already have the long life Christmas crap in stock though, so the make-do, belt tightening, silver lining, Blitz-Spirit enthusiasts can compensate for the lack of oranges in the toes of their children's stockings by replacing them with long life palm oil chocolate already in warehouses across the land...

"Everyone will have the food they need"

I think Gove means this

It's like Y2k all over again. The only reason that some people might be in real difficulty (aside from medical conditions) is becasue some folk are stockpiling and panic buying and leaving less options for those on low incomes who who have neither the income or space to do the same. If everyone just calmed the fuck down, then there will be enough for everyone. You might not be able to get the particular brand of whatever you normally get, but no-one is going to starve or go short if people just purchase as normal. I didn't live through the war or vote to leave, but we are where we are and instead of running around like headless chickens, just get on with it. Maybe spend some time learning to cook and what constitutes a balanced diet in the meantime.

I can't believe someone compared Britain to North Korea. Have a word with yourself, whoever you are, and think of the millions of people who have died of starvation in N Korea.

If everyone just calmed the fuck down, then there will be enough for everyone. You might not be able to get the particular brand of whatever you normally get, but no-one is going to starve or go short if people just purchase as normal

So as Gove said - "Everyone will have the food they need"

However - we all know human nature, don't we..

Well said, WaxonFeckoff

It's like Y2k all over again.

Bingo!

Let's read what the former head of Sainsbury's thinks: inews.co.uk/news/politics/no-deal-brexit-food-shortages-boris-johnson-plans-sainsburys-boss/amp/

Maybe spend some time learning to cook and what constitutes a balanced diet in the meantime.

I cook very well, thank you. I still don't fancy having my choice curtailed because a bunch of Tory shysters want to continue their tax avoidance without EU interference.

WaxOnFeckOff learning to cook might be wasted energy - it's fresh stuff that'll be in short supply, not processed stuff which doesn't go off when sitting in lorries in traffic jams for hours/ days.

By it's like Y2K all over again you mean Brexit won't happen? Or that computer programmers have spent months of intensive, well planned work preventing the problem behind the scenes and clear back up measures are in place just in case something has been missed?

It's like Y2k all over again

No it really really isn't. It's been a while since I've seen that line trotted out on here - I thought it had been dealt with.

You might not be able to get the particular brand of whatever you normally get, but no-one is going to starve or go short if people just purchase as normal.

I don't think people are worried about whether they will be able to buy the right "brand" to be honest. I think it's more about the potential for fresh food to be in short supply.

You can't rely on people to behave sensibly, just look at what happens with petrol shortages/bad weather/the must have Christmas toy. This is why some people are stockpiling now, so they don't go to the shops and deal with the fuckwits when panic-buying does start.

Yes and Y2k, that anology is not only wrong, but getting VERY old.

If you think that food shortages won't cause any harm then you're not in any of the categories that people have identified in this thread who will struggle. You also don't have much imagination.

If you are so ready to put people into 'categories' based on no factual information whatsoever, I think your arguments exist only in your own imagination. We could all invent things about other posters to justify our statements, but that doesn't bring about any kind of meaningful debate.

If we have to Crash Out & I accept BJ's party has probably outplayed the anti-crash out forces... I would like to get it over with now.

The sooner UK crashes out the sooner UK goes crawling back to negotiation table with tail between legs & takes whatever transition deal EU will offer.

analogy

No, I mean overly catastrophising by the general public.

Since when does cooking only involve fresh ingredients? Learn to bake bread, make dishes from tinned and packet goods rather than ready meals. We do grow stuff here you know. We should have all been making an effort to buy locally already.

@TheElementsSong

You’re needed! Can you put it in easy language for WaxOnFeckOff, that would be awfully kind of you. 😁

@WaxOnFeckOff The people who've been slowly adding to their weekly shop over a period of time, to ensure their food stocks are sufficient to enable them to stay out of supermarkets in the event of shortages, are hardly panicking.

PigletJohn

Haha, Y2k. I started working on that in 1996 and the project was already a year in when I joined it. We would have had to start a couple of years before the referendum to be in the same state of readiness. And Y2k wasn't complicated. Still meant the organisation I worked for needed to replace 80% of its IT systems because it was better than updating them.

Look at how spoilt we all are. Certain foods available all year round whether or not they are in season. Won't do us any harm to go back to seasonality.

Since when does cooking only involve fresh ingredients? Learn to bake bread, make dishes from tinned and packet goods rather than ready meals. We do grow stuff here you know. We should have all been making an effort to buy locally already.

Could you be a bit more patronising, please.

I’m pretty sure that my 3 children who have multiple life threatening allergies and very restricted diets to keep them alive are not going to have the food that they need. I’m really bloody worried about feeding them as there is only certain things that they need which can be stockpiled due to shelf lives.