To think that sacking the Chancellor's media adviser is illegal (just one more reason to despise this Government)

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www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sajid-javid-dominic-cummings-fires-special-adviser-johnson-brexit-sonia-khan-a9085056.html

I am a line manager and mere mortals like us have to handle a dismissal in an appropriate way:
Invite the individual to a meeting in line with company policy;
Let them know beforehand that dismissal is a possible outcome (though never a foregone conclusion);
Allow them a companion to the meeting;
Let the individual have his/her say and consider this before reaching decision;
If we dismiss, explain the grounds for the dismissal (conduct, capability or whatever);
Allow them the right to appeal the dismissal.

It looks as though none of this was done here; apparently the Government is arrogant and high handed enough to think the law and good practice don't apply to them only the rest of us.

If she has more than 2 years service she has a lot of rights, and may choose to take this to an employment tribunal; in which case she will probably win. And guess whose money will have to be used to compensate her?

While you’re here @Xenia, are you going to answer my question as to why you think she committed gross misconduct?

I never understand why people say BJ is unelected. It's the party that is in power and voted for, not the Prime minister

Cummings appears to be in charge. Was he elected?

The excuse that if Khan could do something damaging if she remained on the premises is farcical

It's standard practice.

All parties have advisors. Do you really not know the answers to these questions

It’s not standard to remove people under police escort. Cummings is considerably more than a political advisor if he’s sacking the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s staff behind his back. I’m not going to insult you with a silly face @Ligresa, just point out that most people recognise a rhetorical question when they see one.

Perhaps not standard practice to escort by police, but to escort, yes. We're not talking company gossip, though, it's Government secrets, so if they suspect (there is no proof that has been revealed), they are going to take swift and decisive action.

This man has the most raging case of small dick syndrome ever seen.
I can’t see the relationship between him and Boris lasting. Whatever our PMs failings, he’s not a screw up.

I imagine Khan has government information in her head. Unless they plan to brainwash her, they’ve just made it more likely she’ll leak copiously.

“I imagine Khan has government information in her head. Unless they plan to brainwash her, they’ve just made it more likely she’ll leak copiously.”

Yes, if she fancies jail.

Referring to a point upthread where the lady in question is denigrated for being a self loathing ethnic, because obviously an ethnic minority being a Tory must mean this - this gets me mad! It’s a classic left wing trope I experienced in student union politics in the 90s. It’s insidious racism! Sorry, not the main point of the thread!

It would have to be proved in a court of law first @Hirsutefirs, this government doesn’t seem to be very good at that. Khan’s already been fired with no proof.

“It would have to be proved in a court of law first @

Yes, I think that’s the system.

“Khan’s already been fired with no proof.”

How do you know?

Because they’re saying she didn’t leak Yellowhammer but are curiously reluctant to specify what she is alleged to have leaked. Her “crime” appears to be having dinner with and calling a friend.

Alsohuman you’re mainly telling me what you don’t know about her sacking.

You’re right. Do you know why she was sacked?

Supposedly the issue for which she was sacked was "whether she could be trusted to be transparent with No 10".

Now, sackable issue or not, I can in general see that this would be desirable for any No 10.

It's just, well, I laughed like a drain reading that about this No 10.

Dominic Cummings was found in contempt of Parliament for refusing to appear in front of a select committee to answer questions.
www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/27/commons-report-rules-dominic-cummings-in-contempt-of-parliament

And Boris Johnson was sacked for outright lying to the leader of his own party.
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-lies-conservative-leader-candidate-list-times-banana-brexit-bus-a8929076.html

So, you know...

I mean, pissing all your staff off to the point you can no longer trust them is no way to run a whelk stall, especially at a critical moment like now, and it's really not funny.

But at the same time, it's very funny.

ERMGERD ONE DAY SHE MIGHT NOT TELL US THE WHOLE TRUTH! Lying is OUR prerogative!

I’m not making assertions about sacking “without proof,” whatever that means.

Cummings’ arrogance and cruelty, like that of Nick Timothy and Fiona Hill before him will eventually be his undoing. However, I suspect the point isn’t for him to have a long-lived career but to get past the 31 October and then deliver a successful election campaign. Whatever it takes. I think both those things will happen and then he’ll be gone.

If you don’t understand “without proof” @Hirsutefirs, there’s not much point in discussing anything with you. You’re out of your depth.

I know what it means in the real World.

In your post it means nothing except that you’re a partisan.

I’m partisan? Really? Perhaps you could explain the evidence that leads you to that conclusion.

I daresay I could!

Go on then.

No thanks.