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To not share my benefits with XP or agree to him claiming carers for our child?

86 replies

TurtleyLost · 30/08/2019 19:00

I'll try and keep this as clear and brief as possible!

XP and I split just after Christmas last year - we'd been together 11 years and the split was 100% his choice. We have an 8 yr old DD together who has autism and I have a 15 yr old DS from a previous relationship.

We lived in a house owned outright by me (bought with an inheritance I had in the early days of our relationship, he isn't on the deeds). When together, we were both self employed with me earning about 75% of our income, and we claimed working and child tax credits.

XP has fairly serious depression and some alcohol abuse issues. He also cannot drive. Since the split he has been living in a caravan in my garden (this is not ideal but it's the best possible solution ATM) and working part time. The rest of the time he mostly does what he wants, visits friends, faffs around making woodcarvings etc etc.

I now claim benefits in my own name as a single person (this has been agreed by the local jobcentre as XP has his own kitchen etc in his caravan, they were told exactly what the situation is and they agreed I am not part of a couple). I also claim DLA for my child who has autism and attends a special school. I do about 85% of all childcare, plus I still work at my own business about 25 hours a week. I pay all the bills, I run the car and do all the driving for the DC, I buy all their food/clothes/shoes, pay for everything myself.

XP does not pay maintenance as his income is so low it seems ridiculous to even ask for any! He literally lives hand to mouth. He will do the odd bit of childcare but in the same way a moody teenager does iyswim. He isn't reliable. He does take our DD out for cinema trips etc but only if I pay for it. He will also stay in the house overnight with her if I go away, but I dislike doing this as I find it hard having him in my space. If he does overnight care then I leave food and money so they can go out if they want to.

XP is very resentful of the fact that I'm now better off than he is (which I am, and I can afford little treats that he can't like the odd nice bottle of wine or afternoon at a spa etc). He thinks it's unfair that I get all the benefits for the DC because in his opinion his life is also impacted by having DC and he wants to claim carers allowance for our DD. I've refused to sign the paperwork as he doesn't provide 35 hours care for her every week which he is furious about. He thinks I'm being incredibly unfair and that I basically live in luxury while he is in a caravan outside. But he doesn't work the hours I do, and I get the benefits for the DC because I am without a shadow of doubt the primary carer.

Aibu to refuse to let him claim carers allowance and not to subsidise him?

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Dutch1e · 30/08/2019 19:43

So he watches DD while I go to my weekly singing group - it's only an hour but it makes a massive difference to how I feel.

I know ten 16 year olds who will do this, be loads of fun for your DD and won't be some kind of raven squawking in your backyard.

It feels awful to hear about yet another good woman ground down to the point where an hour out somehow makes him indispensable Sad

Windydaysuponus · 30/08/2019 19:44

You need a car + towbar.. He needs relocating imo...

x2boys · 30/08/2019 19:45

Do you claim carers allowance op,? If you don't be could I suppose , I get carer,s allowance for my disabled son ,it's about £66 / week I think it would be difficult to save much from it

DoomsdayCult · 30/08/2019 19:48

@Waveysnail
That is a good point. Lots of people get PIP for severe depression.
Unlike what lots of posters here are saying, being depressed doesn’t make you lazy trash.

GabriellaMontez · 30/08/2019 19:50

He could claim his own benefits? He's a single man. Who has nothing to do with you. Get him out of your garden. He should be working and paying child maintenance.

MadeForThis · 30/08/2019 19:54

The phrase you're looking for is "fuck off"

NeelixFelicis · 30/08/2019 19:54

What an absolute piss take this man is! He expects you to care for 2 DCs, run a home and work, then pay him to sit pottering about with woodwork and his mates?

YADNBU...you need to Marie Kondo this user!

Does this man inspire joy? No he does not. Into the trash he and his caravan go.

Fairylea · 30/08/2019 19:57

I don’t think you’d need to sign anything for him to claim carers allowance Hmm All he needs to do is complete the online form and Bobs your uncle. (Done that for ds- he is on high rate care and I claim carers).

So if you can claim it do it first!

MaximusHeadroom · 30/08/2019 20:22

@MyMamaSaid

Sorry if I wasn't clear. What I meant was that he is not entitled to a share of the money just because he is the parent of a child with additional needs if the child is not living with him or having a financial impact on him.

Lougle · 30/08/2019 20:24

Is the 15% he's doing including the time he looks after her overnight? 15% of the week is 25 hours, so if it doesn't include any hours he's doing overnight, he might have a case. If it does, then no.

user1486131602 · 30/08/2019 20:28

Don’t get into anything that relies on him telling the DWP anything.
He will lie to get more money for booze etc.....putting you in the crap.
Protect you and your kids, as he should have done.
If he’s depressed, he needs to ask for help, you are not his mother.
My advice comes from years of experience.
Good luck

Bookworm4 · 30/08/2019 20:47

So this shiftless waster is living free on your property; no rent, no amenities, no council tax, but expects you to commit fraud to give him more £ to waste?
Time you towed him and his caravan to fuck off land.

cacklingmags · 30/08/2019 20:50

OP you sound like a great person, hard worker, good mum and very kind to your sad sack of an ex. Move him on - he will find another cosy berth, but hopefully he will have to shape up a bit first.

TiggerOfThigh · 30/08/2019 20:54

I claimed carers for a family member and his money reduced when I was given it. It might be worth looking at that.

PooWillyBumBum · 30/08/2019 20:57

God no you’re not BU.

And I’d be asking him what his long term plans are or you might never be rid of him. A responsible teen will babysit your DD for a few quid and not guilt trip you into handing over a proportion of your earnings!

TurtleyLost · 30/08/2019 21:00

I thought because I am the parent of the child and I get the DLA then I'd have to sign? Crazy if the parent of an under 16 doesn't need to agree that the claimant provides the care, or what's to stop anyone putting in a claim for a child they happen to know gets DLA? XP certainly thinks I need to sign, I'm not gonna tell him if he's wrong Grin

I don't claim CA because I earn too much. And I don't want to drop my earnings so I can claim because I'd end up worse off and I'm trying to think ahead to the future and protect my earning ability once I don't have dependent children (I realise DD may be dependent for longer than most DC but I believe she will be able to leave home one day).

He looks after her overnight about once a month. If that. He hasn't done so since, ermmm, June, when he stayed in my house with her for 3 nights while I went away. Over the summer holidays he has had sole charge of her for 2 days (from 10 til about 4), plus accompanied us on one day trip and put her to bed three times while I went out to choir.

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starfishmummy · 30/08/2019 21:00

Tigger the child only gets DLA so they wont reduce that

TheABC · 30/08/2019 21:02

I think you need a plan to get him out if your garden and into his own place. It does not sound particularly healthy and as you pointed out, it's like having three teenagers, not two. Why should you subsidise him in order to have an occasional babysitter when he is not stepping up to be a dad?

How long do you expect him to stay in the caravan? What kind of contact schedule would be best for DD? What is best for you?

JanMeyer · 30/08/2019 21:10

I claimed carers for a family member and his money reduced when I was given it. It might be worth looking at that.

That's only the case for disabled adults, not children. DLA isn't reduced when a person claims carer's allowance for caring for you, it's ESA and the severe disablement premium that is affected by it. Your relative's money was reduced because you can only get the SDP if no-one is getting carer's allowance for you.

MontStMichel · 30/08/2019 21:16

A man posted in the SN boards some time ago, asking if he was entitled to some of the child’s DLA for when he was caring for DC - it sounds like your ex? Anyway, everybody told him the DLA goes to one parent; it cannot go to both in a split; and as it’s meant to be spent on the child, the mother had probably committed the DLA to after school activities, special clothes or whatever! There was probably nothing left over, for him to demand he could spend on the child! Basically iirc, nobody had any sympathy for him!

TurtleyLost · 30/08/2019 21:47

It won't have been XP, he thinks Mumsnet is the saddest of all sad ways to spend time Grin and scoffs at anything I have heard here.

Anyway if he is in charge of DD I do hand over a reasonable sum of money so they can do things like cinema/Pizza Express/ice cream treats etc. But not for her benefit not his!

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MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 30/08/2019 22:00
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DaisyDreaming · 30/08/2019 22:07

It’s simple, carers allowance goes to the disabled persons primary carer who does over 36 hours. Don’t be guilted into signing over or agreeing him to claim

DaisyDreaming · 30/08/2019 22:07

Also from your post it sounds like you have a good income from your part time work which I know isn’t the case if you are on carers. Don’t feel guilty for being able to have the odd treat

TurtleyLost · 30/08/2019 22:29

I'm not at all well off but compared to when I was with him I definitely have more disposable income. I'm careful with money and he isnt, I don't waste anything, I meal plan, I choose my priorities carefully. His contribution was always less than what he ate/drank/frittered away. We had an agreement that we both had the same level of personal spends every week from the pot, which obviously now he doesn't get. So from his perspective, his standard of living has dropped. But that's only because he is no longer subsidised by being part of a family that he took more out of than he put in Confused

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