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To think there will be riots?

853 replies

Anoni · 28/08/2019 10:51

Announced on the news that boris johnson may suspend parliament to reduce the chance of mps being able to block a no deal brexit allowing him to democratically force the uk to leave the EU.

Am i wrong in thinking if this goes ahead there may be serious protests and maybe even riots in london and all across the country to force the governments hand?

OP posts:
friedeggsandcustard · 28/08/2019 14:21

I’m sharpening my pitchfork and getting ready to make the barricades!

Cinammoncake · 28/08/2019 14:25

Cinnamon cake... why cant they, if you have a job with the correct skills you can move anywhere... not in my world, just in this normal world we all live in
I take it you dont have the skills or job required, that's not my fault

Can you. So people can just move to the US if they fancy? right oh.

Graphista · 28/08/2019 14:25

I take it you dont have the skills or job required, that's not my fault

Wow! You really don't care about anyone but yourself do you?!

The people MOST likely to be badly affected by this are people like me - who are too sick/disabled to work! But hey we don't matter as far as you're concerned eh!

ABy1er · 28/08/2019 14:28

O you can’t Akexlee.

The EU and USA both require jobs to go to EU and USA citizens first. It’s very difficult to get visas for either if you’re on the outside.

My dh like many has desirable skills, he could have worked anywhere in the EU. After Brexit he will be stuck with the dwindling UK. More importantly so will his soon to be in the work market teens. They won’t forget this and already dying to vote on this.

I think the Tories are making themselves unelectable for years.

pumkinspicetime · 28/08/2019 14:29

We have left for the moment, another sibling has left permanently. Do you who haven't left, my elderly parents because they can't.
It is ridiculous to imagine that everyone who is going to be negatively impacted by this situation can up sticks and move to another country.

ABy1er · 28/08/2019 14:31

Dh sees hoards of jobs in the USA crying out for his skills, employers have to offer the jobs to US citizens. You can’t get a visa without s job ie it’s impossible. The EU was the best op for widening job prospects. That will soon be going.

ABy1er · 28/08/2019 14:32

We’re praying Scotland will separate so we get Scottish passports. Have told my dc to leave any way they can.

Antonin · 28/08/2019 14:33

I’d advise people to listen to the latest series of Reith Lectures,particularly the last one. They are available on the BBC website. I scholarly and readily comprehensible account of British democracy and the dangers it faces.
Please do listen to it if you wish to back you feelings of anxiety up with facts

Valanice1989 · 28/08/2019 14:33

I'm disgusted by Leave voters who are STILL saying, "This is all the Remainers' fault, they shouldn't have done XYZ." Grow the fuck up. It's time to take responsibility for your actions. Stop blaming everyone else.

messolini9 · 28/08/2019 14:34

There was a vote. Get over it.

We (the majority who did NOT vote for 'sovereignty' or whatever ridiculous knee-jerk reaction prompted this debacle) look forward to seeing you "get over it" when the supermarkets run dry, @Onatreebyariver. Or when anyone you care about needs insulin. Or a job. Or NHS care.

Can't speak for anyone else, but I'm really looking forward to your cries of triumphalism turning to dismay & blame once the UK is a vassal state of America.

FFS this isn't about 'getting over' people voting differently from ourselves - because NOBODY who understood the implications of No Deal actually voted to come out without a deal.

We - that's the maybe 95% who are not the protected, profiteering, elite - are going to "all be in this together" at last. Welcome to the new Straight Banana Republic.

Antonin · 28/08/2019 14:35

Lectures by retired Judge Jonathan Sumption

Graphista · 28/08/2019 14:36

Grow the fuck up. It's time to take responsibility for your actions. Stop blaming everyone else.

Damn straight!

Sick of them giving blithe, meaningless non responses when asked Wtaf they were playing at!!

ButterflyAles · 28/08/2019 14:37

Parliament was prorogued in 1997 so only 22 years ago , by John Major, to try to cover up a report on the Cash for Questions scandal, due to be published before the coming GE,

Eh? Obviously Parliament is prorogued when it comes to the end of the term and there is a General Election. It's the lack of GE that's the issue here. Major had to prorogue Parliament in some point in 1997 to have a GE, he was in the final year of five years. Johnson has prorogued Parliament in order to stop opposition to government policy. That hasn't happened since 1948.

Alexalee · 28/08/2019 14:37

Maybe it is just the field I work in at a multinational company with offices all around the world then. But I have been assured I can work in New York and would have no problem getting a visa

pumkinspicetime · 28/08/2019 14:38

AB1er We were lucky that DH happened to work for a US company which makes transfers to USA fairly painless.
If your DH could find a role in a US company in the UK then you can look to transfer after a time.

BunchMunch · 28/08/2019 14:39

If the result of the referendum had been accepted originally, we would not be here.

This.

I voted to Remain, but we lost the vote.
We need to leave and stop delaying the inevitable.

Wehttam · 28/08/2019 14:39

Where’s the block button for Nigel 👀

frasersmummy · 28/08/2019 14:41

Parliament has said no to every option given to them.
Backstop.. No..
Special economic area no
No deal. Mo
The wa without the backstop no

If it goes back to parliament now it will just bounce around for another few months with nothing being resolved.

We would probs be right back here at Christmas

It's time to just get on with it.. For better or worse.

Birdsfoottrefoil · 28/08/2019 14:43

Parliament is in recess for three weeks and a normal suspension before the Queen’s speech (yes it is a normal occurrence) is usually a week or a few days. I do think they should have left the recess as a recess not a suspension. The real hue and cry from MPs is not due to the suspension but rather because it makes it impossible to block Brexit now. I wish people would be honest with their complaint but I guess the public switch off when Brexit is mentioned these days so better to suggest that this is the first ever suspension of parliament.

I don’t think parliament should be suspended at this time because of Brexit but I dislike the hyperbole.

HappyParent2000 · 28/08/2019 14:43

We can’t agree a deal, parliament doesn’t want a no-deal.

Just cancel the whole thing and move on?

WhatdoImean · 28/08/2019 14:45

Stop delaying the inevitable...

The problem is, what "we lost to" was a lie.... no-one knew at the time what the options for voting were. Remember all the quotes about we hold all the cards, easiest deal ever, they need us more than we need them, no-one is talking about leaving without a deal, etc etc.

As a result, there was NEVER a single agreed position amongst the leave people involved as to what was actually voted for. As a result, the leave groups could not agree exactly how to actually deliver on what was promised. THAT was the cause of the delay.

Now, it seems, the very thing we were told would never happen during the campaign (leaving without a deal) is somehow what everyone voted for, knowingly.

Madness

ButterflyAles · 28/08/2019 14:45

I guess the public switch off when Brexit is mentioned these days so better to suggest that this is the first ever suspension of parliament.

It is quite literally the first time that Parliament has been prorogued to stop opposition to Government policy since 1948. This is not normal.

familycourtq · 28/08/2019 14:45

Are you trying to say the ERG and hard brexit MPs didn't block the deal then.

I am. I have repeatedly called this lie out on here. No-one peddling the lie has come back with any facts - because the numbers simply don't add up. The WA was frustrated by remainers, brexiteers and those between. That's a matter of record.

Tonnerre · 28/08/2019 14:47

So we democratically voted to leave.

No, we didn't. It's been proven that the result was procured by major fraud on the leave side. The government has admitted that, if this had been a binding vote rather than an advisory one, they would have had to set it aside.

Chickenkatsu · 28/08/2019 14:47

When there's lots of pictures of children who have died because they couldn't get hold of insulin or antibiotics, people will start rioting. Hopefully Brexit won't happen but, it's looking more and more likely.