To think there will be riots?

[Anoni]

Announced on the news that boris johnson may suspend parliament to reduce the chance of mps being able to block a no deal brexit allowing him to democratically force the uk to leave the EU.

Am i wrong in thinking if this goes ahead there may be serious protests and maybe even riots in london and all across the country to force the governments hand?

Whoever in a Dublin univesity shrugged and said it wasn't an issue has perhaps a narrow view of potential outcomes
They are probably correct for their field, Ireland will be affected but will also receive a lot of support from the EU.
It is the self employed and private sector who will be affected.

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Just add, when I said the person in Dublin said Brexit is not a problem, they meant as in - not a barrier to employing my friend.

Obviously no-one thinks that Brexit is 'not a problem'

'Well according to project fear 3 million jobs would be lost by just voting leave... haven't lost any jobs at all since the vote... how bizarre
Could it be that the remain side werent really telling the truth too?'

@alexalee They never said 3 million. And er, I literally just told you upthread that my husband lost his job, as has a neighbour. I know of others who are less close to me too. Talk about living in an echo chamber.
BTW, I'm still waiting for my reasons to be positive despite:
-Husband losing job
-Spending thousands to ensure he can remain in the UK (he's French)

• All of us being seriously verbally attacked on several occasions because of nationality, now worrying about the increasing racism and xenophobia creeping into the UK discourse.

Butterfly... theres a while big wide world outside of Europe

And we have no freedom of movement with any of them. Seriously, what country would take any British person who just fancied going and living and working there?

Can I ask if any of you have planned to leave and live in a 'better' country? If you really think it will be so bad I would have thought you would all have made plans to

To where? With what money? Have you ever heard of visas and visa restrictions? Not everyone can get dual nationality, they're not eligible for it, they're stuck here. Asking this is like a version of 'Why don't you go home/go back to where you came from?' Ignorant beyond belief!

Alexalee you seem to think people have access to boris's money tree? otherwsie how do you expect most people to up and lave the country.and how silly to expect them to leave a life they have made in this country. such a silly sweeping statement to just leave the country if you dont like the fucking shit show we have found ourselves in.
to leave family.
friends
logistics of just upping and leaving
to sell a home.
a job
money
to leave your familiar and loved surrounding.
oh yes i dont like brexit so lets just pack a case and bugger off.easy!

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All have visa restrictions. You cannot just up and move there because you fancy it. In fact, I can't think of any country where you can move just because you fancy it except EU member nations that have freedom of movement . . . oh, wait .

Nice try with the 'If you don't like it fuck off then'. Got nowhere to fuck off to and really, why the fuck should we?

This thread is crazy.

Its happened before.
Parliament was prorogued in 1997 so only 22 years ago , by John Major, to try to cover up a report on the Cash for Questions scandal, due to be published before the coming GE, whilst Parlt was still sitting. It was also shut down by Labour'sClem Atlee in 1948.

The world and the country carried on fine. Its a legitimate, if strong move, but all this drama about NO REPRESENTATION OMG, is ridiculous.

Parliament doesnt sit for three weeks of the next session anyway, as they have Party conferences, and it works out as three days that parlt is actually closed down for.

If the result of the referendum had been accepted originally, we would not be here.

There won’t be riots, maybe a polite protest.

Maybe after when people start seeing the effects of what they voted for.

Can anyone who is sure there will be shortages please explain to me why the British government will risk the welfare of its citizens by holding up imports from the EU entering the country?

We won't have trade deals to enable this to happen. Do you seriously think it's just a matter of the NHS ringing up the drug suppliers and saying "Just carry on sending the insulin on 1st November, there's a good chap"?

Am I missing something? He said he isn’t shutting down parliment so why is everyone going crazy?

alexalee I’m genuinely intrigued why you would expect me to flee the country if it’s going to be as plain sailing as you suggest. You clearly have an agenda so I shall just sift past your contributions on the thread.

But the claim was that "the British don't riot over political procedure" when clearly we/they DO!

As a Scot I'm well aware the English didn't give a fuck about us being screwed by the poll tax until it affected them - exactly what is happening with this!

Brexiters don't give a fuck about NI, or the poor,sick and disabled who will be screwed if/when brexit happens. They'll only give a fuck when it starts disadvantaging them & theirs. And chances are by that time it'll be too damn late!

"haven't lost any jobs at all since the vote" many HAVE lost their jobs and businesses/offices have closed or transferred to eu countries. Several businesses where I live have been directly affected.

"Can I ask if any of you have planned to leave and live in a 'better' country?"

1 Why should we be robbed of our country?

2 why couldn't those who didn't like living in an eu country have left for other non eu countries?

3 how?! Those of us likely to be most damaged by this clusterfuck generally don't have the means to emigrate!

4 in some ways you may get what you wish for. Scotland and NI may leave en masse.

"Can anyone who is sure there will be shortages please explain to me why the British government will risk the welfare of its citizens by holding up imports from the EU entering the country?"

The quick answer - it's not just up the uk to agree imports we're dependent on eu agreeing the exports also.

The long answer - go look at the brexit prep threads to see the MANY reasons why there will very likely be shortages. Myself and other mners have created FAQs etc responding to the most common poor arguments claiming why they won't happen. Sadly very many Brits seem completely unaware of how our supply chains, manufacturing & production (or rather lack of) and imports/exports work.

Dual citizenship here, I am not planning to leave my children, grandchildren, husband as others have said we have roots here that run deep, buggering off is not an option.

amicissimma there are a limited number of trucks capable of transporting food. Even if we impose no extra checks, no extra tariffs, no extra paperwork our side, what happens on the EU side is much less easy to control. If France and the other EU countries impose greater checks for lorries entering the EU from the UK it will cause a huge backlog this side. So those trucks then cannot make their collections as scheduled because they've spent the day held in a log jam outside Dover. Drivers then exceed their tachograph hours, etc etc. Its very easy to see how the just in time food delivery chain that we take for granted could break down pretty quickly.

Riots? Good grief no.

Do you not remember the riot threats if Brexit doesnt happen? From people like Farage et al. Thats becuase they know that brexit supporters take a certain point of view which favours the end point being violence. Thus small pro-Brexit rallys have more arrests than high attendance Remain marches.

Remain is a centre ground approach really and the centre ground doesnt have the passion that the left and right do. It is that passion that drives violence. The centre ground prefers a nice walk around London with some witty signs.

Remain is position that stems from being in the EU is generally, loosely, positive in a technical policy kind of why. Brexit is about regaining control, wanking over blue passports, calling judges traitors and generally demanding that the country is given over to the will of the people or else!

There will be no riots. Until the Brexiters run out of things they want. Then the Brexiters will riot against the evil EU for not doing what they are damn well told.

Riots? Lol. No.

Whettam I didnt tell you to flee.. but if you think it's going to be so terrible then why wouldnt you have looked into leaving?
You are just going to stay and be miserable because there will be no food or jobs or drugs etc...
Someones being a martyr

So we democratically voted to leave. Theresa May had a deal (or two) that she offered to Parliament (once or twice) that they kept throwing out, now BJ wants to leave without a deal. Is anyone really surprised? If you wanted to leave with a deal you had your chance but you thought by blocking everything on offer we would remain? OK....

suspect that people are going to sleep through the whole thing though and only go nuts if/once no deal goes through and you start getting shortages in the shops and stuff

I suspect that this will be the reality

We'll all be scratching our heads and wondering how we got into this position...

Alexalee in your world people can just go and live in the USA or Australia? right.

IF this happens, I truly hope there are HUGE riots. Unfortunately, I don't believe the British have it in them to stage a revolution..

If you wanted to leave with a deal you had your chance but you thought by blocking everything on offer we would remain? OK....
Are you trying to say the ERG and hard brexit MPs didn't block the deal then.

we democratically voted to leave. An advisory referendum based on lies. Nobody voted for a no deal Brexit.

Cinnamon cake... why cant they, if you have a job with the correct skills you can move anywhere... not in my world, just in this normal world we all live in
I take it you dont have the skills or job required, that's not my fault