To think there will be riots?

[Anoni]

Announced on the news that boris johnson may suspend parliament to reduce the chance of mps being able to block a no deal brexit allowing him to democratically force the uk to leave the EU.

Am i wrong in thinking if this goes ahead there may be serious protests and maybe even riots in london and all across the country to force the governments hand?

Kenn Dodd by that strange logic can we also argue the eu has blood on its hands?

After all sex trafficking, slave trafficking flourishes in no border eu. Its a gift to all kinds of crime.
And the eu nationals with violent backgrounds who then murderered uk citizens?
Does the eu have blood on its hands? Or is there some excuse you can make up to say it's acceptable that violent criminals were allowed into the UK.
I suppose you will wriggle out of that and say... But that wasn't the eu... That was UK fault.

There was an article in da spiegal (sp) after the battaclan attacks in Paris, it went into microscopic detail as to where those rifles came from, the endless warnings given to burocrats in the eu, danger danger...

Batted away, sat on someone's desk... Then we have the battaclan attacks using the very riffles that they were warned about and they did nothing.
I will never forget junker, rocking and reeling that awful night, and all he cared about was not closing borders as the killers happily flitted between Paris and Brussels.

Do you think most people really care very much ?? Husband mentioned it in passing, but no one else I know

There is a very good reason behind all this.

Up until now the eu have been depending on parliament to prevent us from leaving. The reason they have put the backstop in the deal is to ensure we will not accept a deal, and they have been waiting for parliament to revoke rather than leave without a deal.

They now realise we are serious about leaving, with any luck someone with half a brain in the eu will now turn around and tell someone to negotiate properly and not just try to tie the UK to the eu permanently by forcing us into revoking or by requiring the backstop and then taking 20+ years to negotiate a trade deal.

I'm sure the trucks that arent going across the channel can drive to the airport to pick up the drugs and take then to the distribution centre... not rocket science

I don’t understand how people can live in such tiny, insular bubbles that people around them don’t care. I know people who’ve lost jobs, people who’ve lost business investment, a terrified diabetic and others who take very time-sensitive medications, some staunch leavers who complain about it all the time (hi dad) and we all talk about it regularly. I talk about Brexit at work just about every day in some context or another and I’m not even in a directly related job.

Alexalee I hope you’ve contacted the civil service with these ground breaking, innovative ideas. Could save a fortune on planning if they just knew it “wasn’t rocket science”.

What this whole mess has shown is how truly awful some people are. A combination of vicious selfishness and wilful ignorance is what motivates this minority, and makes them easy meat for the likes of Johnson, Rupert Murdoch and the other power-mad chancers. There are the people who can be sold any old harmful, dangerous shit as long as it comes with guarantees that other people (always the poorer, weaker, 'other' and more vulnerable people) will suffer more and suffer worse. That's what the Leave campaign was always about, and that's what those who still defend it are all about.

@Twinklycandlelight are you too dim to see it?

Riots? Nope. Not until there are empty shelves in Waitrose and Amazon stop deliveries - then, maybe.

Given the prophecy of no jobs people will have plenty time for rioting but of course we will be so weak from lack of food and ill from no medication and the coming of autumn and winter weather it will be the fittest who survive and will riot for justice.

Probably not because the people exercised by this are not the rioting kind.

But the possibilities for non-violent passive resistance are very entertaining.

The British don't do rioting? So you weren't around in the 1980's I take it? Serious rioting in London (Brixton, Tottenham,) and across the rest of the UK also (Birmingham, Liverpool etc.).
You should expect serious disorder all around the UK by December this year.

Kenn dodd - its a good article here it is.

www.spiegel.de/international/europe/following-the-path-of-the-paris-terror-weapons-a-1083461.html

"The EU said that the new guidelines would contain extremely strict technical standards for such deco-weapons.

But then nothing happened -- for six years and 233 days. Worse yet, blank-firing guns and other so-called alarm weapons weren't included in the proposed regulations. If one irreversibly modified an assault weapon into a rifle that could only fire blanks, the EU bureaucrats weren't interested. Brussels was only interested in weapons that could no longer be fired at all, not even blanks."

As early as 2013, though, Slovakian police had warned Europe how easy it was to reactivate such modified weapons so that they could once again exert deadly force. The EU knew about it, talked about it and recognized the danger. But did nothing. Until Jan. 9, 2015 when Coulibaly shot and killed four people with such a weapon.

Our reporting shows that obtaining a weapon in Europe is hardly an insurmountable hurdle to the carrying out of an attack. Indeed, the EU has essentially fostered an easily accessible weapons bazaar for terrorists.

The research reveals years of European Union failures.

Thanks to all those who responded to my call out about drug shortages although i'm not sure any actual Leave voters answered anything but the usual 'but it's all just protect fear' in not such specific words.

Husband (new job) is very senior in pharma and is working on contingency planning for brexit. Over and above the millions already spent on relocalisation of manufacturing, moving supply chains, storage facilities and so on, all are unanimously stating there will be drug shortages. Massive gagging order by the government prevents them from saying anything. It will happen and people may die. Like I said I literally CANNOT comprehend anybody who is ok with this. What could be worth this?

@howwudufeel Not sure I agree that many of those who want no deal are on the breadline themselves. Lots that I've communicated with seem to be middle class, living in a bubble and think 'everything will be alright'. I number of people on this thread are perfect examples, with little knowledge and a flippant attitude to what is a serious concern.

@Xenia Not sure I get your point. It's not the EU who 'lets' drugs in or not. It's the UK and the supply chain process.

@ilovemyskunks 'The government won't just let people die.' Do you know how the supply chain of pharmaceuticals works? It's not that easy, is it? The gov is not just going to pull medicines out of their back sides.

@Oliversmumsarmy Your comment made me feel so sad. The rationing is set to get much worse. You must prepare for this.

@alexalee Please, please stop responding with your snide, goady comments. You may think it's funny to be flippant about what is happening but people are actually having serious discussions about something that matters to them. Seriously, you clearly know very, very little about the processes we are discussing.

Mama what part of that isnt achieveable?

Suzey
Glad your husband got a new job since... yesterday... bravo, and high up in pharma, how convenient

TopBitchoftheWitches so aptly named

@Twinklycandlelight thought so.

@Suzeyshoes
I am on the breadline and do have certain worries about Brexit. However I find your post to be quite patronising and rude to be honest. You ask for people's opinions but do not respect them. You hubby does not know everything - and neither do you.

@AdrenalinBrush
*I'd really like to see some concrete figures on exactly who from the UK is working in the EU, not expat pensioners. Also, what salaries they are on. I bet it is really low. Most Brits cannot hold a conversation in another language.

Most Brits with a bit of sense end up living and working in an English speaking country*

Only the ones who think learning a foreign language is somehow beneath them, even though few other nationalities agree.

There are, in fact, millions of UK citizens living and working in the EU who have the ability and the desire to adopt the language of their host country and adapt to life there.
In France there are 1700 UK civil servants (mostly teachers and doctors), who passed competitive state exams to get their jobs and had to have a v good level of French to do so.
Many more civil servants are not included in that figure because they applied for citizenship.

UK citizens living in the EU are not all OAPs gobbling fish'n'chips and reading the Daily Mail in a deckchair on the Costa del Sol or retired sunburnt stockbrokers in the Dordogne hanging out together, playing cricket, publishing English-language newsletters and shouting in English in local cafés and shops. Thankfully.

Many are professionals. Many go to great pains to encourage exchanges, joint projects and general co-operation and understanding between France and the UK.

I work in a French university (tuition fees: 200e/yr, BTW), and a considerable number of my French colleagues here, who have been working in the field of English Studies for decades, transmitting a respect of and love for the language, literature and culture, are stunned and horrified by what has happened to a country they once admired enough to become academics researching an aspect of it.
My salary is lower than it would be in the UK, but I have job security and a quality of life I'd be unlikely to have back there.
The idea that salary is all that counts and that all UK citizens "with sense" are as linguistically challenged as the majority of our elected representatives (despite their qualifications from expensive schools/universities) is wildly inaccurate.

What’s wrong with eating fish and chips on the Costa Del Sol? Nice bit of stereotyping there.

What on earth does that mean @Alexalee

Oh ffs the people MAJORITY voted to leave just let them get on with it

I thought the queen had to agree isn't it a constitutional monarchy?

Well done Boris, we need this sorting and fast its dragged the UK down for long enough. WE would have been on the upturn by now if we had left on time. We were doing ok before we joined the EU and we will do better after we leave.