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To not invite my brother, his girlfriend and her son to my wedding?

119 replies

Bride2bee · 27/08/2019 11:00

Sorry if this post is quite drawn out, I don’t want to drip-feed later!

I am 15 months older than my brother and we are both in our 30s. We grew up in Essex, and since he graduated from university, my brother lived for 5 years in Leicester and now for 2 years on the Scottish Borders.

I suppose we were close as children, we would play together etc but I suppose that’s what all siblings do!

Since adulthood however, he hasn’t really been bothered about having any sort of relationship, it’s always been down to me to call or text him. When I do text him, it’s mainly one word answers and really hard work. I’ve just had a look through old messages – the last time he started a conversation with me was in May 2017!

I feel like I’ve bent over backwards for him, one example of this is when he was moving from Leicester to Scotland, I hired a van and drove from Essex, to Leicester, to Scotland and home again to help him keep the costs of moving down. I often text him little anecdotes or see how he is, but like I said, it’s met with one word answers. If there’s no room for him to sleep at my parent’s house on Christmas Day I always invite him to stay at my house etc

He doesn’t bother with birthday cards/text messages for me or my little boy, and when he comes to visit my parents (who live 5 minutes’ drive from mine) he doesn’t bother to pop in or text me and let me know he’s in the area. 3 months’ ago my Dad was diagnosed with a terminal, life-limiting disease. My brother has been down to visit once, for the day, and doesn’t respond to any text messages sent by either myself, my mum or my dad in the WhatsApp group we had created when my dad went into hospital.

He is close with, and speaks to my Mum on the phone on a daily basis, so I know she keeps him up to date with what’s going on in Essex - I’m pregnant with my second baby but he hasn’t bothered with a congratulations or anything. I sent him a ‘Save-the-Date’ for my wedding, not even a text to say he’s received it, or congratulations.

Despite living in Scotland, his girlfriend lives in Wales, so it’s not like he doesn’t have the ability to maintain a long-distance relationship of any sort. There isn’t any financial reasons why he can’t stick a birthday card in the post to his nephew if not his sister – he has multiple trips to Vegas each year and owns a 3 bedroom house and drives a luxury car!

I’m just wondering if I’m BU if I don’t send him an invitation to the wedding despite the save-the-date? The date of the wedding has actually changed due to the pregnancy, and the invitations explain that. I’d rather save the money I’d spend inviting someone who doesn’t even bother with basic familial communication and conversation, and put it towards another part of the wedding. I know my Mum will be livid, but I feel like it’s my wedding day and I only really want to invite people who care and show an interest in my life. My mum has already told me I should invite his girlfriend and her son too, neither of which I’ve ever met nor has my brother expressed any desire to introduce us.

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poelpabb · 27/08/2019 11:23

I wouldn't make your wedding the setting for this battle. It will just overshadow the day and become the dominating memory. Invite him and a plus one so he can bring his GF if he wants. Then I'd just stop bothering trying to maintain contact. If he can't be bothered with you guys sod him xx

tasmaniandevilchaser · 27/08/2019 11:23

Not the time to make a point
^^
Agree with this.
I’d invite brother but probably not gf or her son. I had people at my (very small) wedding that I wasn’t desperate to have there but I did it for my parents. In light of your Dad’s illness in particular, sure it would mean the world to them to have both their children there

cccameron · 27/08/2019 11:23

I think making a stand over this on your wedding day just seems massively attention seeking and with your mum likely to be so upset it could sour the whole day. You may not be as close as you would like but he is still your brother and doesn't seem to have done much wrong other than be crap at keeping in touch. If it's that much of an issue why haven't you spoken to him about it before now?

stucknoue · 27/08/2019 11:24

I would invite him but not his girlfriends or her son, you don't have a relationship with her and they don't live together. He is maintaining a relationship with your mum and that matters. Unfortunately men are like this, my brother never contacts me, always the other way around but he's just not the texting sort and doesn't do social media (but he loves us dearly contact isn't his priority though)

Davespecifico · 27/08/2019 11:26

I’m intrigued about why he has such a close relationship with your mum when it sounds as if he puts little into other relationships. Usually, someone like this is equally distant with everyone.
Does he have communication difficulties? Does he find it easier to communicate with your mum because there is a set routine in place that he’s comfortable with? Or is he just rude?

saraclara · 27/08/2019 11:27

The last thing your mum needs is further stress right now. Invite him. I'd invite his girlfriend too. Who knows, she might be really nice, and her input might make the relationship with him better.

But yep. Your dad is terminally ill. I don't know why you'd even consider causing further upset.

AJPTaylor · 27/08/2019 11:28

I'd invite him. He may not bother. It's not right to go straight to not inviting him to your wedding and not fair on your parents.
Fwiw I have a distant relationship with my brother. Literal one word answers etc so I just treat him accordingly.

eddielizzard · 27/08/2019 11:29

Invite him only. He won't bother, so problem solved. Don't make any more effort, he clearly doesn't appreciate it and his lack of effort is hurting you.

alittlequinnie · 27/08/2019 11:31

I haven't read the full thread but my DH was the one who was not invited, recently, to his sister's wedding.

His relationship with her was never brilliant and pretty much what you describe but then his sister tried to get him to choose between me and her and things went massively downhill.

However, we invited her to our wedding and "played nicely" every time we saw her.

February this year she got married and didn't invite us.

It did exactly what everybody on here said it would do - caused a family rift. People had to take "sides" etc - made everything really uncomfortable.

My DH says it is a line that can't be crossed now - no going back.

Not inviting your brother to your wedding is making a REAL statement.

If you do do this - be prepared for the fall out...

... my DH's sister wasn't.

We happened to see her (unexpectedly) two weeks after the wedding and she tried to have a nice chat with my DH! I was like WTF?? You walked down the Ilse two weeks ago and didn't invite your brother and now you want a nice little chat?! My DH ignored her and drove off.

For every action there is a consequence you see....

justilou1 · 27/08/2019 11:32

I suspect you need to look at WHY he hasn’t contacted you off his own bat. Goldenballs Syndrome. He’s probably had you schlepping around being a second little mother as well as his real mummy. You’ve been the one who’s done all the work in your relationship with your brother, so in his mind, that’s your role. I think he is probably the typical self-absorbed male who assumes that all is fine unless otherwise told. I am not saying that’s the way things should be, though. YOU need to take some responsibility for your part in this too, even if it started in his cradle.

MyCatHatesEverybody · 27/08/2019 11:32

invite him not for his sake but for yours so that your bug day can be as stress free as you can make it. It doesn't sound like your brother would go but equally it doesn't sound like he'd maliciously set out to ruin your day if he does turn up.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 27/08/2019 11:33

I think you should invite him, but don't bother with his GF and her son. Then you've done the 'decent' thing; whether or not he chooses to actually attend is beyond your control.

Agree it's not worth falling out with your Mum while your Dad is poorly.

Lamentations · 27/08/2019 11:33

I wouldn't use your wedding day to have this out with him, particularly if you know it will cause upset among the rest of your family.

Invite him and then sit him down the next time you see him after that and tell him how you feel.

pasturesgreen · 27/08/2019 11:33

Concurring with others to say you should invite him. He's your brother, the fallout from not inviting him would be far-reaching and basically you'd say goodbye to any chance of keeping civil family relations going forward.

On the plus side, if he's so unbothered, it's entirely possible he decides not to come. Leave the ball in his court, though.

dollydaydream114 · 27/08/2019 11:34

I would invite him (purely for your mum's sake) but not his girlfriend and her son - they don't live together (or even see that much of each other, given the distance between them), you've never met them and your brother has made no effort to introduce you.

It's shitty that he doesn't keep in touch with you or anything ... but if he speaks to your mum every single day on the phone I can see why he wasn't that involved in the WhatsApp group - presumably if he speaks to your mum daily there's nothing more he could learn from it and nothing extra to say.

RequiringAUsername · 27/08/2019 11:34

Yanbu in any way, shape or form and my first reaction would be to not invite him.

However...you are clearly hurt by his lack of communication. I don't think your wedding day is the day to make a stand. You will just make life harder for yourself. Trust me!

Send the invite. Make it clear it is just for him, not his girlfriend. Make it clear to your mother you are inviting him for her sake and therefore you will not be listening to her guilt trip you about the girlfriend. Her son is a grown up who can introduce his girlfriend when he makes a proper plan to.

Send the invite and don't chase it. Don't chase a response, don't text him first. You don't need to. Let that space for your wedding "go" mentally. If he turns up he turns up. If he doesn't you will be able to point that out to your mother every time she tries to make you feel bad in the future.

Leave it open. If he doesn't do the running or contact you that's fine. If he does, well perhaps that's a good sign too. Let him take responsibility and be a grown up, don't cave and do the contacting first for him.

CocoLoco87 · 27/08/2019 11:35

I know it's your day etc, but I'd invite him for your parent's sake, especially with your dad being so ill. It might be the last chance for family photos etc which your mum will probably cherish.

Congratulations on the baby and on getting married Flowers

Beautiful3 · 27/08/2019 11:35

Just invite him. Then stop chasing him afterwards. I went through the same thing with my sister. Best left and focus on your own family and friends.

dollydaydream114 · 27/08/2019 11:36

Unfortunately men are like this

Can we please stop this 'boys will be boys' nonsense every time a man behaves like a twat? I know loads of men who have close relationships with their siblings and contact them all the time.

ChicCroissant · 27/08/2019 11:36

Invite him. It is a bit drama-llama to try and 'punish' him in this way in front of your family and you'll be the one who comes out looking bad for leaving him out.

Weezol · 27/08/2019 11:37

I would do exactly as twoshedsjackson suggests. No plus one or offers of accommodation/transport. If he comes it will be nice for your folks - you won't really need to spend much time with him.

He probably won't turn up but either way you'll have done the right thing in the circumstances.

Drum2018 · 27/08/2019 11:38

I'd invite him given you have now sent a save the date. If you don't invite him you'll end up looking like the bad guy, your mum will be annoyed at you, not your brother and it will spoil the day for everyone. Not sure about the gf as often times people get invited with a plus one, but I wouldn't be inviting her son.

Nothingcomesforfree · 27/08/2019 11:40

Agree with the PP about picking your battles.
You sent him a Save the Date so send an invite to him alone, no plus one, They don’t live together and you haven’t been introduced.

Cherrysoup · 27/08/2019 11:44

Invite your brother but not the gf or her son, presumably no relation?

Chickychoccyegg · 27/08/2019 11:45

I agree invite your db, its not worth causing a big family falling out over, I'd probably invite his gf as a +1too, but definitely not her ds.

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